Uber offer evaluation

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 Dopmore
Oct 31, 2018 17 Comments

Current level = L6 PMT
TC = 200k
Current TC = 300k (due to stock price increase)
Cliff in 2019
Location = Seattle

Uber offer
Level = 5a PMT
TC = ~400k (base = 190k, stocks = 700k/4 yrs, annual bonus= 20k, annual refresher =100k/3 yrs)
Location = SFO
SO = 50k in 2 installments.

While the offer looks good. I am concerned about 2 things: 1. Is the level 5a good, I have 10+ yr experience, 2. The offer says annual refresher is not guaranteed. Is it possible that they won’t pay annual refresher, did it happen in the past.

Is there any room for negotiation.

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  • Microsoft fargoo
    Dude 400k for a PM? Are you fucking serious ? You add zero net value
    Oct 31, 2018 4
    • Amazon grpifabjkl
      I think he adds more than 400k in value.
      Oct 31, 2018
    • Microsoft Buhahaha
      Fargo- just for your info... a lot of non sde roles are paid higher. Just attend a pm interview at one of these places and you’ll know ur place... so gtfo
      Nov 1, 2018

    • Flagged by the community.

    • Microsoft Gdndj
      So are u. GTFO as I’m not a PM. And fuck u for not valuing what others do.
      Nov 1, 2018
  • Amazon Gjdyveycc4
    Uber stock values are inflated and calculations confusing. Make sure they are giving you whatever they are telling you.
    Oct 31, 2018 0
  • Uber neo.
    Is this Product or Program Manager. Good base, standard bonus. What's the RSU number ?
    Oct 31, 2018 0
  • Intuit qLPF37
    Do you think Uber merits the current strike price on the stock? What happens when Tesla, WAymo et al introduce competitive self driving taxi services?
    Oct 31, 2018 2
    • Uber Upload
      Then we are fucked
      Oct 31, 2018
    • It'll take time for them to build enough cars and get past the regulatory barriers to seriously compete with Uber
      Oct 31, 2018
  • Facebook LNnM77
    Make sure you get what price that 700k is on. Offer seems top 5% of 5a.
    Nov 1, 2018 1
    • Amazon / Eng
      TC++

      Amazon Eng

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      Uber
       TC++more
      ^ recently accepted offer and # of shares were based 40.6/share value
      Nov 1, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng
    TC-=1

    Amazon Eng

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     TC-=1more
    That is a very solid offer; generally 5b correlates to L6 at G/FB and 5a is L5 so keep that in mind, but the numbers are good.
    Nov 1, 2018 1
    • Amazon / Eng
      TC-=1

      Amazon Eng

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       TC-=1more
      Missed part where you're at Amazon; Amazon L6 is L5 elsewhere generally so yeah 5a is good
      Nov 1, 2018
  • Amazon simplifier
    Looks like a good offer - similar to sde 5a offers. Didn't know that uber pays same to engineers and PMs, unlike Amazon.
    Nov 3, 2018 0
  • Uber Xidl
    Damn that’s a good offer for 5a
    Oct 31, 2018 0
  • Google TuYK00
    Good offer. Most people get ~1.0x refresher based on performance. Hard to get 1.5x to 2.0x.
    Oct 31, 2018 0