Uber offer vs Microsoft

Apple ceGD48
Dec 27, 2018 38 Comments

What is the Uber new grad offer this year? I’ve heard it’s 110/110/0 and there is no room for negotiation. Can anyone confirm? I have an on-site with Uber coming up soon. I already have a Microsoft offer that’s a lot stronger and wondering which company would be better in the long term. If I were to receive an offer from Uber it would be in NYC which is my preferred location but there’s a 50-70k difference in TC until Uber IPOs.

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  • Uber broforce
    More risk more reward. Uber might IPO at double the price you got. How many people on Earth get to be a part of one of the biggest IPOs in human history?

    That being said, choose the better team. At this point in your career, try to find the place where you can do good projects and climb up the ladder.
    Dec 27, 2018 11
    • Uber broforce
      Yes, most importantly Wall Street also believes it.

      "Uber Technologies Inc [UBER.UL] could be valued at $120 billion, when it finally goes public next year according to proposals made by U.S. banks bidding to run the offering, the Wall Street Journal reported on Tuesday.
      The proposed valuation of the company is about $50 billion more than the company's most recent valuation, setting the stage for what would be one of the biggest listings ever."

      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-uber-ipo/uber-ipo-proposals-value-company-at-120-billion-wsj-idUSKCN1MQ1N8
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Microsoft rickg
      It'll be fun when the Kool aid wears off and they realize it was all worthless.

      Can't wait for the next bear market.
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Uber broforce
      Rickg, take a moment to read my comment again. High risk high reward. It could of course go either way.
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Microsoft Jeph Bezos
      Just because a company does an IPO it doesn’t mean it’ll be successful... several IPO in the dot-com era are now worthless.

      Recent IPO with a 90%+ loss:
      https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/21/blue-aprons-worst-meal-kit-deal-ever-now-costs-under-1-.html

      Having an IPO in what some economists are saying could be a recession worst than in 08 is smart on behalf of Uber, it’ll get the most money now. Risky move as an investor though.
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Uber broforce
      I will keep it short.

      1) OP will be getting stock at current 409a price at 60B. Morgan Stanley, morning Star, Goldman Sachs estimate Uber IPO to be 120B. So 60B as lower bound would be quite safe.

      2) You know that we have had two liquidity events already right? Two of my colleagues are already millionaires. Yes, real millionaires.
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Microsoft Jeph Bezos
      Absolutely nobody going to Uber today (unless top management) is gonna make anything close to a million dollars. The coolaid is strong in you.

      But Ok, i guess everyone who works at Uber will be a millionaire. Got it. Thanks.
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Uber zlJT78
      They don’t have to make a million dollars to make more than going to Msft.
      He/she is saying three simple things:
      1. Uber will IPO soon. With this alone, if share price stays the same, OP will be doing fine as a new grad.
      2. IPO has reward/risk factor that is not present at Msft
      3. Some financial institutions have claimed Uber’s valuation will be over 100B. Even if it’s 60B or 80B, Uber offer is good.

      Broforce hasn’t pushed much kool-aid imo - you just have something against uber.
      Dec 28, 2018
    • Microsoft Jeph Bezos
      I happen to love Uber and hope it is extremely successful. My personal opinion is that the fact that it’ll IPO soon does not make it an automatic “better” deal than any other company. IPO’s can fail, specially if the economy turns.

      That’s all.
      Dec 28, 2018
    • Uber zlJT78
      It’s not automatically better - definitely risk involved. But OP mentioned that Uber comp is significantly less since equity is private, so it’s important to note that that won’t be the case since IPO will make the equity worth >$0.

      Imo, if you don’t need the money now and are young, I’d take the risk with an IPO, especially if you believe in the company.
      Dec 28, 2018
    • Microsoft Jeph Bezos
      You make a valid point. If the OP is young and can handle the risk, then it can make sense. I assume he’s starting out and the RSU he’s receiving at MSFT is not major, so Uber could pay off.
      Dec 28, 2018
  • Microsoft Jeph Bezos
    Do you want to work at the largest tech company in the world, or at the company with the biggest IPO failure? Uber burns through cash, it’s not profitable. If the economy declines, their IPO will go the way of blue apron.
    Dec 27, 2018 8
    • Uber broforce
      😂 you got a lot of things wrong my friend.

      1) Growth is what investors are hungry for and that is the most important thing they value. Uber has barely scratched the surface.
      2) If economy declines, just like McDonalds, Uber will also do well.
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Apple / Data Archmage
      The biggest problem for Uber now is shortage of drivers. In economy downtime, more people will drive for Uber.
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Microsoft Jeph Bezos
      McDonald’s doesn’t burn through cash. In an economic downturn they will sell less, yes. But they will continue to be profitable.

      Uber loses money. It can only continue to operate through financing. If the economy collapses Uber will need to borrow money to continue to operate - their business model will suffer. That’s just basic economics.
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Uber broforce
      No, Jefh Bezos. Uber has similar growth model as Amazon. Still need more explanation?
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Microsoft Jeph Bezos
      Amazon is cash flow positive, unlike Uber. Do you know how to read financial statements?
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Microsoft Jeph Bezos
      What’s your point here? How is this related to cash flow? Do you know how cash flow differs from net income? FYI, Uber is not Amazon. You clearly have zero finance knowledge. Thanks for sharing.
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Uber moyrwadv
      L3 eng nerd battling over financials is fun to watch.
      Dec 27, 2018
  • Microsoft 4655434b
    Msft will be here in 10 years with a pretty high certainty, can u say the same for uber?
    Dec 27, 2018 5
    • Facebook / Eng
      impac

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      impacmore
      But why does that matter? Get the higher TC, then move away if the ship sinks.
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Microsoft 4655434b
      Didn’t OP already say MSFT was higher?
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Microsoft HUyN72
      Worry abt the future of tech if we engineers are full of shorted sight people :(
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Microsoft olahola
      But you won't be staying at same company for 10 years.
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Uber moyrwadv
      so you optimize for 10-y-certainty?

      lol, definitely stick to MS and rest/vest with mediocre comp if that’s what you are looking for.
      Dec 27, 2018
  • Salesforce Hdhshjaj
    Uber due to IPO
    Dec 27, 2018 2
  • New
    Mr.Green

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    Mr.Greenmore
    I was going to say the same. Microsoft's stack is a narrow future where as Uber offers a modern view that will translate well to to many other opportunities.
    Dec 27, 2018 1
    • Microsoft Jeph Bezos
      This statement makes sense. I guess if the learning experience is a big factor, then Uber trumps MSFT.
      Dec 27, 2018
  • Microsoft MSNorcal
    Uber all the way! Companies prefer startups over Microsoft on a resume any day. Uber about to IPO
    Dec 27, 2018 0
  • Uber Sentinel
    I would imagine there are more problems to solve at Uber. At this stage of your career skills matter way more than compensation. Think of it from a 10 year perspective, which job will make your chances of landing a better next role .
    Dec 27, 2018 0
  • Microsoft IcM_Alert
    Go to Uber. Learn open source and modern technologies do you grow faster in your career. Don’t make the same mistake I made. Microsoft is maintainable and redundant work that’ll get thrown out 90% of the time. So the company won’t have any excuse not to promote you or throw you out of the door
    Dec 27, 2018 0
  • Get your Uber offer first
    Dec 28, 2018 0
  • Uber TheDee
    The RSU number looks low but maybe they changed that since my new grad offer?

    I can say very positive things about Uber NYC. Have loved it here
    Dec 27, 2018 0
  • Microsoft msboy
    Uber unless you're at a really good time in Azure.
    Dec 27, 2018 0

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