Uber vs Amazon

Cisco KBzK48
Jun 3, 2018 41 Comments

Someone I know is considering two offers. Uber vs Amazon? Any input is much appreciated as far as which company is better and/or which offer is better

Uber(ATG) offer: Software Engineer(1) Base: 120,000
Target Cash:11,000 Target Equity Refresh: 26k
Start On Equity: 125,000 valued at like $33

Amazon(Kindle) offer: Base Pay: 123,000
Sign-On Payment Yr 1: 29,000 over 1 payment(s)
Sign-On Payment Yr 2: 22,000 over 12 payment(s)
RSUs:70

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TOP 41 Comments
  • Uber uMadBro
    For a level 1 engineer, the pay package should be irrelevant since the variance is low between companies.

    I would index on career growth potential.

    I think Uber being at an earlier stage has more learning opportunities with cool things to work on and still has a lot of upside from the equity, the two factors as to why I chose to join and I’m happy with my decision.

    Anecdotally I had one friend at Amazon who quit after a year or so because they were bored.

    Probably can’t go wrong either way, if after a year they don’t like it, it will be so easy to find the next job with that experience.
    Jun 3, 2018 1
    • Uber / Eng nkidwt
      I totally agree with this. You should try to get to senior and above as fast as possible and then optimize for earning. Also, a growing companies offer more opportunities for promotions over mature ones.
      Jun 3, 2018
  • Amazon tsrU47
    Uber
    Jun 3, 2018 0
  • Amazon / Eng
    KGvK44

    Amazon Eng

    PRE
    Microsoft
    KGvK44more
    Go with Uber. Also I know people at ATG. Ping me directly for details
    Jun 3, 2018 0
  • Microsoft Adidon
    I would go for Amazon, specially if it's in Seattle VS bay area
    Jun 3, 2018 0
  • Google ICok45
    I would not want to join Uber ATG but would prefer Uber to Amazon
    Jun 3, 2018 2
    • New / Eng 🐝zos
      Reason for not taking ATG?
      Jun 3, 2018
    • Google ICok45
      I second UAskedIt below. Seems like a prime target for cancellation.
      Jun 5, 2018
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    • Cisco KBzK48
      OP
      Could you elaborate a little on your views of ATG?
      Jun 3, 2018
    • Uber / Eng
      Shits

      Uber Eng

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      Uber
      Shitsmore
      I had someone from ATG transfer into my team about 3 weeks ago. They’re not in the best position
      Jun 3, 2018
  • Tinder / Eng
    meowimacat

    Tinder Eng

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    BIO
    Im a cat! Meow 🐈
    meowimacatmore
    U B E R
    Jun 3, 2018 0
  • Amazon LlFO08
    Uber
    Jun 3, 2018 0
  • Uber / Eng
    Shits

    Uber Eng

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    Uber
    Shitsmore
    It’s funny how just 2 months ago ATG used to be a specialty group that a lot of people wanted to transfer into internally
    Jun 3, 2018 0
  • Google yue
    Well my current rule of thumb of Amazon is unless someone is offering me 1.5 to twice the TC for Amazon, I won't consider it unless there are other factors that can influence the decision.
    Jun 3, 2018 7
    • Microsoft Zuzi
      With amazon you only get the stock in your third year. So not sure your calculation is valid unless you are planning to stay for the long haul.
      Jun 3, 2018
    • Google yue
      That's true. But the value of your grant would have probably increased.
      Jun 3, 2018
    • Microsoft Zuzi
      If you’d worked two years at google and changed to work two years at FB, you could have made more factoring in the bump you get on switching jobs.
      Jun 3, 2018
    • New / Eng 🐝zos
      You could just buy options or stock if you really believed in amazon and work elsewhere.
      Jun 3, 2018
    • Amazon topcoder5
      By working at the company and helping it delivering products you contribute to the stock increase. Of course, there are a lot of factors such as which team you land etc. But working here for more than 3 years I saw/participated in great products delivered which contributed to the company's product line
      Nov 26, 2018
  • Amazon Dfgxxvb
    Dont go to Atg i know senior leader who i woekwd with and he is useless
    Jun 3, 2018 2
    • Cisco KBzK48
      OP
      Is the leader in ATG currently or at Amazon?
      Jun 3, 2018
    • Amazon Dfgxxvb
      Works at uber currently
      Jun 4, 2018
  • Amazon / Product
    ERNo54

    Amazon Product

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    Cummins
    ERNo54more
    Uber may negotiate a higher pay.
    Jun 3, 2018 0
  • Rockwell Collins jEOK52
    How was the interview experience for Uber ATG?
    Jun 5, 2018 2
    • Amazon / Eng
      KGvK44

      Amazon Eng

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      KGvK44more
      Random. Completely and utterly random.
      Jun 5, 2018
    • Rockwell Collins jEOK52
      @KGvK44 TC or GTFO
      Jun 5, 2018
  • Microsoft Zuzi
    Both in Seattle or one Seattle one Pittsburgh or Bay Area?
    Jun 3, 2018 2
    • Cisco KBzK48
      OP
      One in Seattle the other in the Bay
      Jun 3, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      Hooliganss

      Amazon Eng

      BIO
      AWS
      Hooliganssmore
      Woah, there’s a serious pay difference there then. COL difference is pretty big
      Jun 3, 2018
  • Uber / Eng bag
    Uber.

    For a junior engineer, learning potential is the greatest thing. Amazon is also good for learning, but Uber ATG will give him experience in a technology that is becoming really hot.

    Packages are similar roughly.

    Also, in general Uber is much more exciting than amazon, but that’s my subjective opinion.
    Jun 5, 2018 1
    • Uber / Eng bag
      Why is it not possible from a hot mess? :) sometimes there are even more opportunities to learn when you are figuring out the right strategy than in case where it’s all figured out.
      Jun 5, 2018
  • WalmartLabs pjtV38
    Rsu $70k or 70 unit for Amazon?
    Jun 3, 2018 1
    • Cisco KBzK48
      OP
      70 shares
      Jun 3, 2018
  • Cisco / Sales mRks
    Atg?
    Jun 3, 2018 1
    • Cisco KBzK48
      OP
      Advanced Technology Group(Self-Driving Vehicles)
      Jun 3, 2018
  • Uber 76fg45
    Yoe?
    Jun 3, 2018 1
    • Cisco KBzK48
      OP
      3 YOE
      Jun 3, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng Mopy
    Someone you know eh?
    Jun 3, 2018 1
    • Cisco KBzK48
      OP
      Lol Yes! I tried to tell the guy it’s all anonymous
      Jun 3, 2018