Voice Your Opinions: Self-Driving Cars/ Autonomous Vehicles edition

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May 28 24 Comments

Which approach do you prefer?

[LiDAR + Camera + Radar] by Waymo, Apple SPG Cruise Automation, Uber ATG, Lyft, Argo AI, Aurora, Zoox, Nuro, Pony[.]ai , WeRide[.]ai, Baidu and every other AV Start-Up.

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[Camera + Radar] by Tesla and Pronto[.]ai

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TOP 24 Comments
  • IBM / Eng namastayyy
    Both are shit otherwise we would have something by now
    May 28 3
    • It’s solving the 0.001% in the Bell curve that is intractable, not because of the hardware.
      May 28
    • Uber domin8
      May be they are missing Watson? 😂
      May 28
    • Microsoft Teslanos
      Also, complex systems don’t have bell curves
      May 28
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    • Tesla Hdhaga
      Why buy a car with lidar If SDC makes it easy to access a ride in 1-4min... with a fraction of the price of current TAAS companies, car sales would decline if this comes to fruition. Albeit, SDC companies will manage the fleet of vehicles on the roads.

      Tesla’s business model assumes there will still be rising demand for people shelling out 35-100k on cars in 10+ years with SDC equipped.

      Who gives a shit how ugly a car is if it can get you from point A-B, and you don’t need to shell out significant dollars?
      May 28
    • Finale Inventory / Eng huHG50
      If Tesla is able to achieve their goal of fsd taxi service, and they are willing to sell the cars to help them afford it, I could totally see people buying Tesla's as an investment, expecting to get a return on it. Elon was estimating it could make people 30k a year. I'm thinking about buying one later this year if it starts looking like they are close to being able to achieve that goal.
      May 28
  • Microsoft MSFTBRO
    For immediate implementation, lidar is needed.

    I mean how many people died because Tesla didn’t recognize stuff on the road?
    May 28 1
    • Microsoft Teslanos
      Tesla recognizes it, but they don’t care and are happy to beta test in production with lives on the line.
      May 28
  • Tesla 4 L 0 M
    How about the one that has something currently working on the road.
    May 29 0
  • Jet.com / Other
    gtfoorgtfo

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    gtfoorgtfomore
    Have you seen this btw?
    https://youtu.be/ybOG5QsT53s
    May 28 5
    • New / Eng
      Freefolk❄️

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      That background poem tho :o
      May 28
    • New / Finance fCNy78
      Probably pre programmed/mapped route.
      May 28
    • New / Eng
      Freefolk❄️

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      And it's highway.... No complicated scenarios. Just lane keeping and line following. Not FSD.
      May 28
    • Jet.com / Other
      gtfoorgtfo

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      gtfoorgtfomore
      Also other cars are fake
      May 28
    • Jet.com / Other
      gtfoorgtfo

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      gtfoorgtfomore
      If a choice is only between FSD and nothing, I’d wait for quantum teleportation
      May 28
  • Emergent VR kRyv44
    Humans drive just fine with two optical cameras. If you can’t get FSD with radar, sonar, and cameras, you’re doing it wrong and lidar is just going to drive up your costs.
    May 28 3
    • NVIDIA GFce17
      Humans don't drive fine. That is the pitching point of self driving that it does not focus to remove redundant driving, but makes driving much safer.
      Aug 27
    • NVIDIA GFce17
      To achieve higher and more accurate sense of awareness, you need radar + camera. The lidar is required to help in those 0.01% of the cases.
      Aug 27
    • NVIDIA GFce17
      Tesla is trying to use insane amounts of data to overcome those 0.01% scenarios without using lidar. Hope they succeed.
      Aug 27
  • Jet.com / Other
    gtfoorgtfo

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    gtfoorgtfomore
    Lidar is unaffordable and not going to fly, the cost of acquired big data cannot be borne by the customers.
    Once precise positioning is solved without $50k equipment, self drive should be achievable
    May 28 1
    • Microsoft Teslanos
      There are manufacturers getting Lisa’s equipment for 500 usd cogs. How is that unaffordable?
      May 28
  • Panasonic Avionics / Sales
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    Lidar not practical for consumer.
    May 28 2
    • Microsoft Teslanos
      There are manufacturers getting Lisa’s equipment for 500 usd cogs. How is that unaffordable?
      May 28
    • Jet.com / Other
      gtfoorgtfo

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      gtfoorgtfomore
      I’m not tracking lidar market very closely, but aware of multiple scam attempts that promised to bring the cost under 1k.
      May 29