Wait for Google or take Uber?

New / Eng humanbeing1
May 22 34 Comments

Hi, current TC is 265 with 4 YOE from a mid-tier non tech company doing distributed systems and engineering.

I have an offer from:
Uber with around 280 TC at L4
Amazon with 270 TC at L5 (SDE 2) which is equivalent to Uber L4

Uber is willing to negotiate more but asked me for a number.

I have passed Google HC for L4 but have yet to get a team match. I passed HC about 4 weeks ago. My recruiter said I could expect at least 3 more months.

I like the work at Amazon > Uber, but the Culture/Prestige/TC of Uber > Amazon. I think I've narrowed it down that Uber > Amazon especially if they increase their offer a bit.

I don't love my current work (not a lot of growth) and if Google offered me a job but in 12 months, I would take Uber and re-apply. If it was 2 months, I would wait for Google Team Matching.

Can't move to LCOL for Google team matching for personal reasons, so HCOL it is.

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TOP 34 Comments
  • Take Uber. Would love to have you.
    May 22 0
  • Uber
    supermang

    Uber

    PRE
    Super Evil Mega Corp
    supermangmore
    Get the fuck over here now!
    May 22 1
  • Google Trump2024
    Wow 3 months??! I matched in about 2 weeks.
    May 22 1
    • New / Eng humanbeing1
      OP
      The recruiter said it could take 2 weeks, but it can also take months, they can't guarantee me anything.
      May 22
  • Google / Eng g3doc
    Umm.. which company do you want to work for the most? What are you looking for in a team/position?
    May 22 5
    • New / Eng humanbeing1
      OP
      Google > Uber > Amazon > Current role. Now, this obviously depends a bit on the role, and that is what makes this difficult for me. I’m not sure when TM will finish and if I’ll even get good options that are better work than Uber/Amazon
      May 22
    • Google / Eng g3doc
      If you really want Google then wait. Uber and Amazon offers will stand and if not they'll find another team for you. Don't give into their pressure tactics. SWEs are in extremely high demand
      May 22
    • Google / Eng g3doc
      Better yet, set a deadline for Google. Give it 2 months or whatever you were saying. If they didn't come thru then choose Uber or Amazon. Google's loss
      May 22
    • Google / Eng g3doc
      Also, don't worry about prestige. Go for where you will be the happiest. All these companies hire from each other all the time
      May 22
    • Google / Eng g3doc
      Last thing I'll say is that FB gave me a deadline , I chose Google. Then FB emailed me a few months later asking me how things are going at Google, and literally said they would be willing to increase the initial offer they gave me
      May 22
  • Amazon KULL00
    Prestige of Uber over Amazon?
    May 22 5
    • Uber framrew
      People typically equate pay, benefits, and hiring bar to prestige.
      May 22
    • Amazon KULL00
      Pay might be better at the $51 409a or the $120B valuation, but is it still better after the drop to $30/share?
      May 23
    • Uber framrew
      Just calculated it. Yes, I would still be paid more than Amazon’s average for my level based on levels.fyi
      May 23
    • Amazon KULL00
      Nice. Would you consider your Uber offer average for the same level?
      May 23
    • Uber framrew
      It’s a little bit below the average, but not too far off. Kinda expected with my YoE (L5a with 6.5 years).
      May 23
  • Google Trump2024
    Have you had any calls lined up yet? What level for Google?
    May 22 4
    • New / Eng humanbeing1
      OP
      edited to add L4. I have had 1 call lined up, recruiter said it wasn't a match. They did ask if I knew any Hiring Managers in my networking looking to hire an L4.....
      May 22
    • New pbYo77
      Didn't know L4 team matching was also an issue. I just got done with L3 team matching and that was a pain
      May 22
    • New / Eng humanbeing1
      OP
      How long did it take you?
      May 22
    • New pbYo77
      6 weeks but I found a team through a referral
      May 22
  • Uber Yol0$
    Come to Uber. We are still trying to break out and not resting and vesting
    May 23 0
  • New / Eng goosfand
    Google and Amazon are more stable than Uber who is not making enough money yet!
    May 22 0
  • Twitter / Eng LC4FUN
    If you don’t get a team match does that mean the teams just don’t like you? Or u never actually meet the teams in person, simply you match any team that has a opening that you are interested in
    May 23 1
    • Google / Eng g3doc
      Each product area probably does it different but from my experience the teams have access to a list of candidates that have met the hiring bar. They flag candidates they are interested in and then the recruiter sets up the team matching call
      May 23
  • Google dumbfcuk
    Wow dedicated/loyal Uber bunch here!!
    May 23 1
    • New / Eng humanbeing1
      OP
      Especially with how many more Googlers there are compared to Uber SWEs on blind
      May 23
  • Google / Eng EdLampert
    TC depends on which way these stocks go
    May 22 1
    • New / Eng humanbeing1
      OP
      Agreed. However if the expected value is assumed to be the current share price because of something-something fair pricing then I should take the offers as they stand and understand the risk profile I’m taking and adjust my other investments
      May 22
  • New WkOg32
    Does the TC include the entirety of the RSU value after vesting?
    May 24 0
  • Microsoft / Eng gqne23
    Google will probably not match Uber’s TC.
    May 23 0
  • Uber kFvn76
    If you’re a top performer at Uber you still make business impact as an L4 IC - can you say the same for your other options? If so then it is about the TC; If not then sign those papers and welcome to the team!
    May 22 0
  • Google Lanisster
    Uber is offering you 15k extra? Ofcourse don't take it!
    May 22 0

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