Walmart labs (Sunnyvale) vs zulily (seattle)

Amazon CixA35
Apr 27 49 Comments

Walmart labs: (Sunnyvale ca)
Staff swe
195base
60k joining bonus
15k/year stock (60k 4yrs)
Yearly bonus: (average 10%)
[they refresh 60k stock every year]
Tc: 290k

Zulily: (seattle)
Sr swe
175base
15k/annum joining (30k 2yrs)
25k stock/year
Yearly bonus (average 5%)
Tc:220k


I’m done with amazon
My current tc: 220k
Yoe:10
Base:153k
Remaining is stock.

Unhappy with the growth and problems here. I feel like ops engineer more. I don’t want to spend even a day more.
(I’m not on pip or dev list, I’m just done)

I also do freelance and make up to 40k per year approximately but not guaranteed every year.

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  • Oracle not_larry
    What do you mean by done with Amazon? PIP or burned out?
    Apr 27 5
    • Amazon CixA35
      OP
      Not pip. I’m just burnt and kind of depressed about the ops work I’m doing. I want to build big and good things.

      (I made 50k this year picking up a side freelance project and no tax on that. It gave me more happiness in seeing what I built and the capabilities I could use. )
      Apr 27
    • NetApp l0rD
      How do you freelance and not pay tax on that?
      Apr 27
    • Amazon CixA35
      OP
      It’s a different topic and I’m from a different country and I run a company in my mothers name who is just a interface for the work I do and her income is 0 and I show losses in her tax returns.
      Apr 27
    • NetApp l0rD
      So basically tax fraud.
      Apr 27
    • Amazon CixA35
      OP
      Yups
      Apr 27
  • Comcast ichiban
    Neither. If you’re going to downgrade, might as well do it for > 50k TC or level bump

    Edit: after OP updated TC, walmart is a clear winner. also SV will offer better future opportunities
    Apr 27 2
    • Amazon CixA35
      OP
      I’m not downgrading anything. Also I’m very very unhappy now.
      Apr 27
    • Capital One
      sgiBoy

      Capital One

      BIO
      Hello, I like turtles.
      sgiBoymore
      Don't listen to Comcast. He's not in FAANG (I'm not either) but he's still circlejerking FAANG. You make the decision based on your happiness.
      Apr 27
  • Capital One
    sgiBoy

    Capital One

    BIO
    Hello, I like turtles.
    sgiBoymore
    Walmart Labs because they're hungry for talent and are competing with Amazon.
    Apr 27 0
  • Microsoft no-sql
    How was interview process in Walmart
    Apr 27 7
    • Amazon CixA35
      OP
      Difficult was 4/10.
      Apr 27
    • Microsoft no-sql
      Leetcode ?
      Apr 27
    • Amazon CixA35
      OP
      Yes leet easy/medium
      Apr 27
    • Microsoft no-sql
      Any system design, behavior ?
      Apr 27
    • Amazon CixA35
      OP
      System design yes( design Twitter) behavior is part of every round 1 or 2 questions
      Apr 27
    • Microsoft no-sql
      Congrats! All the best with other company.. just wondering how did you do freelance work while at amazon. I keep on hearing people work there 10-12 hours/day and weekend
      Apr 27
    • Amazon CixA35
      OP
      I work a lot. For passion than money
      Apr 27
  • Walmart.com 🌲50
    OP, so far WalmartLabs is a winner based on comp, but our RSU structure is a joke. I can vouch for the work life balance here, it's very good and you will get very talented co workers too. However I will advise you to flaunt your WalmartLabs offer and get a better competing offer from Snapchat, Roku, Uber Airbnb etc and join them. But B4 you do that Please don't forget to call up your Walmart recruiter and explain to him that you are accepting a much better offer. Our leadership tends to think that high base is enough and they can get away by offering 1/10th the RSU of what other bay area companies are offering. This needs to change.
    May 4 0
  • Capital One Vfua50
    Keep in mind that CA has 13% tax for considering TC and more sun than WA and house prices are crazy. You need to job hopping every two years in Bay Area for Better TC and good house.
    Apr 27 0
  • Amazon CixA35
    OP
    Yes I’m interviewing with a couple of companies.

    Square, Uber, fb,wework,grab
    Interviews are lined up
    Apr 27 8
    • Expedia / Eng anony🐭
      Are you in Seattle area? What's your current tc?
      Apr 27
    • Amazon CixA35
      OP
      I wrote In the post above. 220
      Apr 27
    • Amazon CixA35
      OP
      And yes it’s seattle
      Apr 27
    • Expedia / Eng anony🐭
      Nevermind. Got it. You can make 20-25k more at Expedia with competing offers at senior level. If you don't mind the impending commute to Seattle, it's a great place to work and actually also have time for yourself. People are mostly humble and there's usually a one-team mindset.
      Apr 27
    • Expedia / Eng anony🐭
      You can also try principal and make more.
      Apr 27
    • Amazon CixA35
      OP
      I replied to a recruiter who reached me for Expedia
      Apr 28
    • Amazon CixA35
      OP
      Thanks for the suggestion
      Apr 28
    • Expedia / Eng anony🐭
      All the best. Should be fairly easy to get in.
      Apr 28
  • 190K is at the high end of Staff Eng range for base. Amz folks are valued in WMLabs - If you do well, you can be promoted in two years to Principal Eng and your TC will be raise to 350-380.
    Apr 27 2
    • Amazon CixA35
      OP
      I’m considering Wallmart
      Apr 29
    • Gr8 choice .. now get ready to be teased by family and friends for working for Walmart 😆
      Apr 29
  • Cohesity CSJ
    Walmart labs is crap; don’t go there
    Apr 27 0
  • Expedia / Eng anony🐭
    Try Expedia. Not kidding. Zulily offer is shit.
    Apr 27 0
  • LinkedIn v45jui
    Just 15k/ year of rsus is very low even by new grad standards. Negotiate for at least 50k/year. Ask Walmart to give more.
    Apr 27 7
    • Amazon CixA35
      OP
      Apr 27
    • New / Eng sPNJ41
      What's this website?
      Apr 27
    • Oracle ir0n
      Why new hire Grant is starting in Sept/Oct ? Why not at your joining date or is this standard for any new hire offer ?
      Apr 27
    • Amazon CixA35
      OP
      Yes it’s standard
      Apr 27
    • Amazon CixA35
      OP
      It’s not a website it’s offer letter
      Apr 27
    • Oracle ir0n
      Is this standard like 6 months after your joining ?
      Apr 27
    • Amazon CixA35
      OP
      No, I can only join in July. (H1b transfer takes time)
      Apr 27
  • Zulily minmax
    I cannot answer about Walmart labs. But if you are looking for good compensation, avoid zulily. You seem to be getting joining bonus which is good. You can rely on joining bonus and base but just forget about stocks. In some teams, work is very good and there is room for more learning. If you are looking for good pay, I would say stay away.
    Apr 28 2
    • Amazon CixA35
      OP
      You mean the stocks don’t grow? Or refreshes are low?
      Apr 28
    • Zulily minmax
      They don’t grow or they go down a lot in value so much that you just have to forget about it.
      Apr 28
  • Oracle ir0n
    Why not internal transfer in Amazon ?
    Apr 27 1
    • Amazon CixA35
      OP
      I believe, new people and setup grows you more as a person. Both co
      Pained pay as much as I earn now then why stay here?

      I’m a switcher and I’m probably going to switch again in 2years
      Apr 27
  • Staff annual bonus at WML is 20% .. not 10. Last couple of years They have been consistently paying extra on top of that - as company goals are met and exceeded.
    May 4 0
  • Esri / Eng Apsg61
    Go for walmart lab.
    Apr 27 0

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