HousingNov 6, 2017
Photonphxorbust

Want to apply to jobs in SF but have no degree.

Hey guys. So I'm a lead Android engineer at a medical company. The job is okay, the pay is solid (100k/yr in Phoenix is definitely okay), but I'm both unsure of the company's leadership and unhappy living in Phoenix. Ideally, I'd love to make the pilgrimage to the Coast (SF, LA, even east coast NYC, Boston, etc.) The problem is that I'm entirely self taught, and my 1 week of college experience won't count for much. I started learning how to code when I was 9, and just picked it up from there. I've applied to some of the bigger name companies and they won't touch me without a degree. (Perhaps the last 2 years at my existing role would help with that.) What can I do to be competitive in the Bay area? So TL;DR can I, a self taught Android engineer, make myself more competitive in my dream city markets?

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Square anon98163 Nov 6, 2017

Big companies interview candidates out of a bootcamp. Plenty of self taught people too. It's not your lack of degree why companies aren't responding to your application.

Photon phxorbust OP Nov 6, 2017

I get responses, though. It's usually when they learned I hadn't graduated yet that the process would end. This was also when majority of my resume was self taught and freelance experience, so I'm sure that contributed.

Microsoft dyermaker Nov 6, 2017

It is pretty sad, all these companies founded by drop outs, and they won't consider people without a degree. And yes I do have an engineering degree.

Google liam Nov 6, 2017

Its always degree or experience. A lot of people without degrees at big companies.

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Lmal11 Nov 6, 2017

A lot?

Uber truthtroll Nov 6, 2017

If you are good (and you have to be pretty darn good), I would actually turn that around and use no-degree as your leverage. Here's the pitch "look I'm completely self taught senior Android developer, disciplined myself to learn this skill out of nowhere, been coding since I was 9, hacker startup mentality" Don't try to run away from your lack of degree. Embrace it and use that as an advantage to show how you drive your own career without anyone telling you how

Microsoft dyermaker Nov 6, 2017

That will NOT get you past the resume gaurd.

Nintendo . 🐈. Nov 6, 2017

Nope, that's what experience is for. Unless the company strictly wants degrees. Don't apply for those places, better to not waste your time or theirs.

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Lmal11 Nov 6, 2017

You basically need a referral or know someone that can point you to HR to pass the resume screen threshold a.k.a. networking

Facebook public Nov 6, 2017

A lot of people do not have college degrees and a few do not even have homeschool. As long as you've built something this shouldn't be an issue.

Cisco Changeling Nov 6, 2017

I don't think a degree is a big factor, I think it is a combination of skills/experience (medical, not a tech company), and being out of state. It is also important to understand how do you even get to talk about the degree. Do they ask "Why I don't see an education?" on your resume?

Microsoft dyermaker Nov 6, 2017

I have no idea what universe you live in if you don't think big tech firms demand degrees