Was joining Amazon the right decision?

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Yo-yo Chen
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Jun 11 22 Comments

I used to work for a manufacturing company (big conglomerate) in the Midwest (worked there for almost 10 years). My TC was mere $105k but my perks included travel around the world once every two weeks (I love to travel and explore) and extremely low pressure job. I was the top performer and people (including the VP) knew my name. I loved my job and every minute I spent doing my work. I decided to get a part time MBA since I doubted the future of the conglomerate and soon after graduating landed a job with Amazon in Seattle (TC went up to $190k). I met some really smart people and learnt a lot but in the end I missed doing things which I did in my previous job. There was no travel and I was a HV at best, I had to constantly prove that I am not falling behind the ever increasing bar. Up until recently I moved into another tech company since I hated Amazon’s dog eat dog culture - My TC went up to $290k but I am again stuck with a desk job and a work culture better but similar to Amazon (since my entire team is from AWS). My increasing TC has not been able to buy happiness nor the job satisfaction which I once had. Sucks but I feel getting Amazon on the resume didn’t do much except getting me higher TC. How many of you have been in similar situations? How did you deal with this?

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  • Intel LvOT55
    The fact that you're asking that question means you already have the answer
    Jun 11 1
    • Intel LvOT55
      It looks like it might be time to leave and look for something better but prioritize culture and anything else that's important to you over TC
      Jun 11
  • Deloitte broadway74
    This is concerning me a lot. I start Amazon next week and am nervous I made the wrong decision. Going from $130k to $220k but nervous about wlb. I have 10 yoe and have a really easy job now but am so bored. Thought amazon would be good since I could learn more and get outside my comfort zone.
    Jun 11 6
    • Deloitte broadway74
      Same starting to get worried...My thought at first was that maybe it was related to hiring new grads or inexperienced people. Since maybe they haven’t experienced working a lot so it’s more of an adjustment from school. I used to work 60-70 hrs week when I first started my career. But more worried about the pip or being fired after seeing these posts. I’ve never had that happen or even had a bad rating. Esp 10 years into my career I don’t want to get fired. Just nervous because my spouse is relocating too and it’s a lot of pressure to make this successful when it’s not just your life.
      Jun 11
    • CVS Health Canada🇨🇦
      I understand, there's a lot on stake but you got a very good raise and even if you stay for a year or two, it may open door to other great opportunities.
      Jun 11
    • Deloitte broadway74
      That’s what I’m opening. The raise is more then I could ever get in our current city. Worst case I try to go to Microsoft or something.

      Good luck to you as well!
      Jun 11
    • Amazon
      Amz

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      I would say most of the posts on PIP are little bloated. Amazon has ~40k employees in Seattle and people who get PIP’d use Blind as a mechanism to seek guidance, however, any job at Amazon is all about frugality and work pressure is definitely much higher than what you will experience at any other non FAANG employer. If you are a rockstar in your current role then don’t burn bridges and you can always get back to what you were doing before. For me it came down to the phrase “money can’t buy you happiness” but have to keep on chugging along to have enough savings so that I can move out soon.
      Jun 11
    • Amazon / Eng firefly123
      Just try to do your best every day and focus on the positives while being aware of the negatives. You may find you love the culture, may find it’s not for you but you will definitely learn while you are here.

      Positives:

      Generally high scope. You will get to own things and drive projects larger than what many companies would offer at similar level.

      Tooling and developer productivity. People like to shit on BuilderTools because like every cost center in every large company they are chronically underfunded, but, AWS combined with a fully set up build/test/deploy infrastructure is more than a lot of companies can offer here.

      Subject matter . Groups are generally doing interesting work. Little pure legacy maintenance in my immediate circle at least.

      Cons:

      Tech debt. We move fast due to high delivery pressure, and this leads to corners cut in some cases.

      Performance management. We stack rank. The Amazon blind is filled with posts about this, with terms I’ve never seen or heard in the office but you will come to know.

      Randomization. You will have to/(get to) wear a lot of hats. If you want to keep your head down and just write code this may not be ideal here.
      Jun 11
  • Microsoft RandomInt
    I'm not sure why you didn't prioritize the things that are important to you when you looked for a new position. Sounds like you should do so soon.
    Jun 11 2
    • Amazon jtGV66
      It is easy to not appreciate the things you have until they are gone.
      Jun 11
    • Microsoft RandomInt
      Yes, but this is OP's second time doing it. The first time I certainly understood (been there, done that)
      Jun 11
  • Amazon / Product
    babk9483

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    In a similar position. Hate my current gig, post-MBA at Amazon. TC 180k. Looking to make a switch.
    Jun 11 5
    • Amazon / Other amzngy
      Are you a l6 PM?
      Jun 11
    • Amazon / Product
      babk9483

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      Yup! Managers here like to micro manage everything. Trying to leave my org but hopefully Amazon soon.
      Jun 11
    • Amazon / Other amzngy
      I second that.. I had the opportunity to move to a PM or a DS position and chose the DS position since theres more autonomy. I tried out the PM role for a couple of months and realised you're just a glorified mouthpiece and doc writer for your mgr..
      Jun 11
    • Amazon vimpy
      Any idea why manager like to micro manage? Mine is trying to read into every action I took, every decision I made.
      Jun 11
    • Amazon / Product
      babk9483

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      At first I thought it was me sucking at my job. But speaking with my peers who I know do well, they have the same issues. It's a culture of believing that good ICs make good managers. Mine has never managed.
      Jun 11
  • Amazon / QA
    ohukfrg

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    ohukfrgmore
    Amazon is never the right choice, you are trapped
    Jun 11 0
  • New cCTI36
    I am also from Midwest but I want to go there because I feel stuck and falling behind learning newer skills that will eventually help me in the future.. I both love and hate the laid back culture here..but it is what it is..I am trying really hard because the laid back attitude made me lazy
    Jun 11 1
    • Amazon
      Amz

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      In your case you don’t “love” your job. Makes perfect sense if it is slowing you down.
      Jun 11
  • New / IT hard work
    I can understand it, i’m also in same boat
    Jun 11 0