Way better than levelsDOTfyi or glassdoor

Amazon / Eng cayde
Mar 2 42 Comments

https://reffo.us/

Someone posted this on blind recently and I thought I'd promote it. My problem with levels is that it feels way inflated due to stock skyrocketing. For example, an SDE II at Amazon who joined when the stock was 800 might say their TC is 300k (mid-SDE III level comp) when in reality it's just because the stock blew up and they entered the data a few years in. Sure their actual TC ended up being 300k, but it's not like Amazon was saying, "this person's TARGET is 300k."

This site solves that problem by tracking offers, not "TC", so the site handles the expected TC, instead of reporting who got lucky.

Great work, by this person or team.

Note: creator says they launched recently and it is MVP, so sounds like more features are planned.

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  • Oath
    nerdsRule!

    Oath

    BIO
    hit me up if you’re hiring. I am strong in algorithms and decent at development skills. Will try my best to get you your referral bonus, hate Verizon!
    nerdsRule!more
    fuck they created a blind equivalent for just offer data, asking for work email at login :/
    Mar 2 6
    • Oath
      nerdsRule!

      Oath

      BIO
      hit me up if you’re hiring. I am strong in algorithms and decent at development skills. Will try my best to get you your referral bonus, hate Verizon!
      nerdsRule!more
      exactly πŸ˜‚
      Mar 2
    • Amazon / Eng cayde
      OP
      Sorry, I didn't realize the URL I pasted would show a sign in page. See edited post for new link where you can browse without an account.
      Mar 2
    • Oath
      nerdsRule!

      Oath

      BIO
      hit me up if you’re hiring. I am strong in algorithms and decent at development skills. Will try my best to get you your referral bonus, hate Verizon!
      nerdsRule!more
      cool tried it , looks good πŸ‘. I am fetching data cause I have new grad offers from Uber and G
      Mar 2
    • Amazon / Eng cayde
      OP
      Nice!!
      Mar 2
    • Checkr reffo.us
      Now we don't require email to read data. Only to post 🎊
      Mar 2
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    • Nextdoor / Mktg Z5gk3z
      Nice. What are you hosting it on?
      Mar 3
    • Checkr reffo.us
      Heroku for now. About $50 /mo
      Mar 3
    • Nextdoor / Mktg Z5gk3z
      It’s a nice website so far. Nice job. Mind sharing what you built it with?
      Mar 3
    • Checkr reffo.us
      Simple Rails 5 app / postgresql / bootstrap to get a prototype out ASAP. If it becomes a thing I plan to refractor with React and heavier front end for better UX (avoiding page reload etc...).
      Mar 3
  • Amazon Username*
    description sounds great, but why did the link go to a sign in screen.
    Levels FYI did not require that.

    Is there an area that you can browse aggregate data without signing up?
    Mar 2 3
    • Amazon / Eng cayde
      OP
      I suck at links, I guess.

      https://reffo.us/

      If the creator sees this, consider redirecting authentication-based urls to home page if not auth'ed.
      Mar 2
    • Amazon / Eng cayde
      OP
      I changed the link in the post to / instead of /offers
      Mar 2
    • Checkr reffo.us
      Sorry... now "/offers" is open to all :) 🎊
      Mar 2
  • Amazon Username*
    Site looks good overall. I like the break outs on the offers, which appear more clear.
    It is tricky to navigate initially without log in, to find company links which are guid based in the url. The jobs offers mostly say one day old and 2 days. Are you the company founder?
    Mar 2 4
    • Amazon / Eng cayde
      OP
      I sent the creator here, hopefully they'll find it.
      Mar 2
    • Amazon / Eng cayde
      OP
      I liked it so much I wanted to promote it. I've been thinking about the problems I pointed out for the last 6 months, so I was really excited to see that someone did something about it.
      Mar 2
    • Checkr reffo.us
      Sorry I don't have much features to search offers yet but it is on my priority list. I am mainly alone on this so I can only stretch myself so thin. Eventually I want to search by company level location position TC...
      Mar 2
    • Amazon Username*
      So far it looks great. I mentioned it in case log in was a requirement. As brand new site, if it is on the feature list to navigate offers more easily while not logged in, I think it is great.
      It makes sense that you focused first on the offer intake, so you can collect the data.
      Mar 3
  • Checkr reffo.us
    Please give me all the feedback you can and I will work on them as soon as I have some bandwidth!! I hope you guys like the idea and will like even more the execution. There is a lot we can do to bring transparency in salaries and compensation for a fairer future πŸ™Œ
    Mar 3 3
    • Amazon Username*
      I'm loving this site!

      I have a request on the filters.
      Can I filter for a TC threshold or Base Pay threshold? This will help if I am only considering jobs above a certain amount. Seeing what offers are given that match, could help narrow the when searching what companies to apply to.
      Mar 10
    • Checkr reffo.us
      Thanks!! I will add this ASAP (I had to go in family vacation just after I launched it and I can't code much right now :()
      Mar 11
    • Facebook swe19
      I'm also interested in filters for TC and if the job title could be case insensitive and allow partial matches.
      Mar 25
  • Google / Eng statusz
    Also, if some people haven't seen already, leetcode has a new forum section to discuss offers - https://leetcode.com/discuss/compensation
    Mar 2 5
    • Checkr reffo.us
      Interesting! Well I guess they def have more users than me but I still hope I can differentiate with a more standardized way of inputting/showing the data and breaking down in a way to compare offers more easily. I guess I just need to execute on everything I want to build now... If only I had more time/help.
      Mar 3
    • Amazon / Eng cayde
      OP
      @reffo, dm me if you're interested in another contributor! I'd love to contribute to this! If you'd prefer to fly solo, no worries!
      Mar 3
    • Checkr reffo.us
      I'm flying out on vacation tomorrow for a couple weeks mostly AFK. Might not be able to ship anything but will try to reflect and see where I want to take reffo.us. Ill DM you when I'm back to see if I need some help! If that's cool with you?
      Mar 3
    • Checkr reffo.us
      Thanks for the support and encouragement tho! Appreciated. It's my first time trying to actually release a side project. (So many repo and domain name/ideas went to trash πŸ˜…)
      Mar 3
    • Amazon / Eng cayde
      OP
      For sure!! Rest up, and enjoy! :)
      Mar 3
  • Yahoo hdyrhry
    I feel there should be an edit for posters to edit their own offers incase it changes after further negotiation - just a thought. Or maybe I didn’t explore completely.
    Mar 3 2
    • Checkr reffo.us
      Yes top of my trello board. Apologize that this is not released yet. I've already had to manually go and edit obvious input mistakes. Will definitely release the edit button soon
      Mar 3
    • Yahoo hdyrhry
      Btw, very cool idea πŸ‘
      Mar 3
  • Amazon mjv8uu7
    Stock inflation is a huge issue while comparing TC to offers.
    People say "why does it matter? It's money in my bank account". It matters because if you ended up making 50% more than your target, new offers will look low in comparison.

    People might have unrealistic expectations and let good offers go just because of that.
    Mar 3 1
    • Amazon / Eng cayde
      OP
      EXACTLY this.
      Mar 3
  • Sephora / PR UndrPayd
    I want to search by field and company and see historical data. If none is available for said company I want to see other companies in their place. I want to do this without creating an account.
    Mar 3 2
    • Checkr reffo.us
      You will be able to do it without an account as soon as I have time to build it. The philosophy is transparency and giving back the leverage to candidates so I want to open the most I can to the public. But I need more than 24hr in a day to make progress on it πŸ˜…
      Mar 3
    • Checkr reffo.us
      Just released some basic filtering. I plan on adding fuzzy matching and other filters around comp later!
      Mar 3
  • Flagged by the community.

  • Sephora / PR UndrPayd
    Also... a wide range of departments and fields. Ie. HR, marketing, creative.
    Mar 14 0
  • Flagged by the community.

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