What are you, as a Silicon Valley techie, doing to stop future California wildfires?Nov 15, 2018
Silicon valley is well known for innovation and the technical prowess we have here is hard to find anywhere else in the world. What can we do to stop the destruction due to wildfires?
- Microsoft / EngyayssaOh, I’m doing my fair share. I drive a Tesla, have solar roof panels that make me a net energy producer and I shit on Trump and anyone who is not part of the costal elite. /s
- Microsoft ABACADABAC@To that is demonstrably false. I’ll link this study from 2015 https://www.ucsusa.org/sites/default/files/attach/2015/11/Cleaner-Cars-from-Cradle-to-Grave-full-report.pdf and and this 2018 followup https://blog.ucsusa.org/dave-reichmuth/new-data-show-electric-vehicles-continue-to-get-cleaner
- Facebook / Eng5'6"IndianLegend has it that the wildfires will stop once a 5'6"Indian gets laid.
Come on guys n gals, only YOU can prevent wildfires
- I imagine Silicon Valley is hard at work gathering race and gender stats of firefighters, and blogging about the systemic racism caused by Trump before the numbers come in.
- For all the people who aren't dumb (blaming 'forest management') or brainwashed ('climate change' bs), the reality is this http://prntscr.com/ljln62
This is all well planned destruction by some very high level criminals in power. It's quite possible both Jerry Brown & Trump are involved. They both won't mind grabbing other people's real estate at throwaway prices & this is the best way to reduce the price of valuable houses (now plots after microwaving the houses to nothing). Here's a video, see near 1:09 minute mark https://vimeo.com/296979937 Ask any real (not propagandist media) fire expert, or experiment it yourself -- green grass doesn't just burn like that out of nowhere. Even if you use a large fire torch it won't. The only way it can burn so fast is laser/microwaves or plasma. And it's no rocket science to think such capabilities can be put inside satellites or high flying aircrafts. This needs to be investigated.
- @Mh87 The fires in this case aren't 'natural' 'wild'-fires. They're 'artificial disasters'. That's what I'm trying to say. A typical wildfire temperatures go up to 1472 °F. These aren't sufficient to melt down steel frames (which is happening in what we're seeing). Also the 'natural' wildfires do not SELECTIVELY burn down homes & preserve the trees around it. They burn it all evenly. This isn't co-incidence. It's disaster capitalism at its finest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhHOMU-IhHA all in plain sight.
Say whatever, there are some facts which can't be explained by the 'natural wildfire' theory. People love to stay ignorant, & some go to the extent to trying to stop the person saying the truth. But facts are facts.
- @gfba68 there is one already. They've been building it since years & have kept everything secret about it. They say they've officially discontinued but it continues. Also there's a rumor that part of DOD, CIA are rogue, which means lack of oversight can easily have them do this. You don't know how corrupt & criminal our governments are.
- In all seriousness though, put down the conspiracy theory brain poison and step the fuck away from the internet a week. The government isn't necessarily your friend but not only is this plot ridiculous in terms of motive and execution, it's not like they'd be competent enough to pull off something like this.Nov 21, 20182
- Google noname_2Why can't our forests have fire stopping zones (think a wide clear patch) every so often to limit the spread.
- Clearing the forest trees is a huge myth. Old trees don't burn so quickly. Bushes and young trees do . So clearing means fire will spread faster.
Please get the facts right before you cause more damage.
Power lines + humans are usually in the mix . But the environmental conditions have to be apt for fire to spread ( low humidity , wind speed , no rain/ drought )Nov 16, 20187
- Amazon KHCr70Realistically you need to have small controllable fires to clear underbrush every year. Fire stops and safety barriers wont do shit when the surrounding area is a tinderbox.
You probably need to annually burn all the underbrush within a mile and a half from your town.
Also hotter weather ain't gonna help in the years to come
- Oracle xPNo42IR thermal imaging via satellite/drone. Simple ML image recognition application. Flame throwing drones dispatch to create fireline. Fireline radius algo needs to look at rate of fire growth, Geo factors, terrain, etc. Probably need some infrastructure investment to have drones, alcohol/kerosene close to respond within required timeframe.
- Unfortunately, right now I’m reduced to defending Trump.
Better Forrest management IS the solution to this problem.
We need separation between urban areas and wildlife areas, and we need to empower firefighters and rangers to do controlled burns and cut down growth. Without fear of DAPL protestors and lawsuits.
It doesn’t fit into liberal environmental ideology, but it’s the right thing to do. Either we manage the forrests or we all vacate our bungalows amoungst the trees. If we leave it up to nature, state wide mega-fires were the pre-human normal.
Also I advocate for high density housing.
- New aLuu55Trump has not got even the slightest idea what he’s talking about. The forest service is broke. It would take a huge budget increase to do enough proscribed burns to solve this issue. And guess what? Trump isn’t interested in doing it.
We also know for a fact that climate change has been making the situation MUCH worse. Unfortunately, the Trump supporter crowd doesn’t know what something like “atmospheric forcing” is, but they think they know more about climate change....than actual climate SCIENTISTS.
That should tell you everything you need to know. Unfortunately the Trump supporter crowd genuinely just doesn’t KNOW much about anything. They’re basically living embodiments of the Dunning Kruger effect.
- Vote for the folks willing to invest in infrastructure (e.g. upgrade power lines) instead of folks that care about gay rights and free medical insurance for illegal immigrants.
We have bigger problems don't we?
- New kendrLove how people slap ML and AI on just about anything.
The solution is to have IoT sensors with a large radius installed in our forests that preempt the onset of the fire by keeping a continuous check on the levels of carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, humidity, and temperature, and relaying this data to a central system that calculates the early onset of fire by studying data from multiple sensors at scale.
Detecting the onset of a fire is key here because it grows in geometric proportions. That means if it burns for a minute, a cup of water is sufficient to extinguish it, but if it burns for 60 minutes, you need an olympic sized pool of water to extinguish the fire.
As soon as you detect the onset of fire, you notify a rapid action force with coordinates of the location to instantly contain the fire. Another option (instead of having a human force) is to have drones installed with fire extinguishers stationed within the forest area itself and immediately dispatch the drones to the location of the fire. You'll surely end up with false positives, but the extent of damage can be massively contained.
- You sound like a Smokey the Bear PSA: remember, only *you* can prevent forest fires
- So many stupid comments here. It’s very basic. Why don’t you hear about large forest fires in Germany, France, Scandinavia... because they have real Forest management there. Germany faces all of the same issues with drought and acid rain impacting forest growth that can create vast areas of dead wood... but what they do is to effectively manage the forest by removing dead trees and collaborating with loggers to help thin out forest spaces (not clearing them entirely). It significantly reduces the risk of fire from all of the dead organic matter lying around and helps encourage growth of new saplings that are often inundated by said dead wood. President GW Bush was actually among the first to push this legislation, but from the popular anti-Bush political frenzy at the time, his legislation did not get though Congress. This should not be a political matter. These fires in California are - for the most part - barring any human actions - avoidable. California and its Forestry Service can do so much better.
- This has nothing to do with Trump. Try a few Google searches, Mr. “Amazon”. Almost every Congress has pushed forward this legislation. Our state can do a lot. Maybe 1.3 TRILLION in debt and mismanagement have something to do with that. And yes, I live in South OC, so drop it, asswipe.Nov 25, 20180
- Asana ObamaI’m living away from the wilderness so firefighters don’t have extra work trying to save my home.
- Zymergen / EngbullzRemuslupin is right. Fire fighters don't always actively fight wild fire head on. They work to save property where they can. The overall strategy is to try to nudge the fire into strategic locations so that it goes out for natural reasons like running out of fuel to burn once the wind direction changes or hitting fire breaks. There's no easy way of putting out wildfires once they get going. Saving property that's in immediate danger can be easier than trying to put out the whole fire before it reaches it. If the property wasn't there to begin with fire fighters could afford to spend more time on the fire breaks than trying to save homes at the same time.
- I don't usually agree with Trump, but California has been atrocious at controlling their fires.
- The source does give the split of 57% forests falling under fed, 3% state/local and 40% private (state is responsible for fire prevention in these too).
However, it doesn’t seem to say that the vast majority of the fires that happened recently were _not_ on federally maintained lands.
- Here it is: http://www.ktvu.com/news/majority-of-california-s-forests-managed-by-feds-scientist-says-mismanagement-isn-t-to-blame
It is an anti Trump piece, as many local reporting is, but if you read between the lines it says this:
"As the fire has spread, the vast majority of land that has burned so far is in private ownership, Stine said."
- First up: A fox affiliate channel is anti-Trump? Not so sure about that :)
Second: To attribute that the fires started _outside_ federally managed land is still misleading.
This article says “But in the case of the Camp Fire, the massive wildfire that has destroyed 6,500 buildings and killed 29 people, started near or on federal land at the very lower boundary of the Plumas National Forest, an area which mostly shrubland and a bit of pine forest.”
It started _near or on_ - how do we know “most” of the Fire didn’t start on fed land?
- Vote to put crazy environmentalists under control and make it easier to log wood as well as create safety buffer zones.
Idiots who claim bushes, grass and leaves are the problem please don’t reply.
- Twitch digistifI voted to ban electric scooters and plastic straws. 'im helping' - Ralph Wiggum
- Downvote for electric scooter because it discourages me to use my car and take them instead.
Also, I believe the the idea should be differentiated from implementation while voting. Policies and governance around them can be strengthened. That would be better in my opinion
- Apple / OpsshaboopI vote for people who don’t think scientists are a bunch of liberals paid to reach specific conclusions.
- Apple TimHorton$Probably found a start up with some convoluted business plan with some AI/block chain play, raise millions from VCs who don’t know any better, then go bust realizing the idea doesn’t work and no one wants to buy it.
- Amazon MemeMagicIt’s almost as if proper forest management instead of naive “save the trees” policies are important. Wildfires are an important part of the ecosystem, you need more
Controlled burns and logging can be beneficial in keeping undergrowth down
- Exactly. Bad environmental laws prevent deforestation for the sake of fire prevention. Need more conservative logging practices. “Conservative” meaning for the sake of preventing fires, not just cutting down for the sake of making money and clearing forests. Being conservative about it.
- Log the trees. And make housing codes that require brick or nonflammable building materials.
- Just don’t fcuking camp and don’t make fire! All is because you make money go camping and burning everything. Just be responsible!
- Apple ijyA68Fighting to get Democrats out of power so we can have a better forest management policy.
- Text CAWILDFIRES to 90999 to donate $10 to the American Red Cross CA Wildfire Relief; at least once
- Sandvine QjSh13Develop an app to help politicians realize they are too stupid to make laws governing nature.
- Autodesk / Product!ArrogantI’m creating an iOS app that only works on iPhone XS Max, which takes in satellite imagery and uses voice AI to make an API call to an IOT water sprinkler system that needs a 5 MBPS internet connection at each sprinkler to work.
I just need $2 million to make my prototype.
- Salesforce GGGaitondeBy working from home Im causing some sort of butterfly effect that’ll help wipe off the wildfires
- Uber 9rumaI think we should band together to do tree planting once it’s contained and safe
- Tableau / EngstevenzzzWhen this smoke/wildfire situation happened in Seattle in August, I wrote up a simple guide /site for what air filters /masks to buy: airpollutionguide.net . Used the Amazon affiliate revenue to run Google ads (I lost money doing this, made ~100 in affiliate revenue) as a PSA to spread the word. This is more on the "adaptation" vs "prevention side of things, but I think the effort has helped ~200 people be healthier during the fires