What makes Amazon less prestigious than FB/ G?

Amazon Jeezo
Sep 29, 2018 610 Comments

I always wonder about this.

The TC for these places are quite similar. Maybe only difference in free food? So, what’s the community’s obsession with G and FB being better tech companies?

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  • Google / Eng mad👩🏻‍🔬
    Amazon treats employees like shit, that’s the main difference
    Sep 29, 2018 10
    • Amazon / Eng
      DaaamDoood

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      That’s the warehouse (which I agree is pretty bad).

      For corporate employees there’s really not much difference (apart from the free food etc) from what I hear.
      Sep 30, 2018
    • Facebook / Eng :?
      Maternity/paternity leave blows at Amazon. And 401k. And bonuses/refreshers.
      Sep 30, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng FreeBees
      20w maternity is not terrible IMHO
      Sep 30, 2018
    • Facebook / Eng :?
      I guess just paternity then.
      Oct 1, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      DaaamDoood

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      Paternity is also 10k

      Bonus/refreshers: at the level of the stock and the growth it has seen (not just right now, but take the whole decade), i don’t think I agree. It’s been phenomenal.
      Oct 1, 2018
  • Microsoft diaper
    It's a sweat shop
    Any one saying otherwise is kidding themselves
    Sep 29, 2018 17
    • Amazon / Eng
      onMyWay

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      The concept likely exists at every company, but amazon is well known for using it liberally to rid unproductive employees
      Sep 30, 2018
    • Samsung / Eng
      lolstar

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      lolstarmore
      So does Amazon uses PIP to make employees better ? Or to coerce them into quitting /firing ??
      Sep 30, 2018
    • Microsoft 🍿<==
      Lol at the college grads above having their pissing contest

      Threads like this make me hate our industry
      Sep 30, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng Aging314
      I work < 40 hours
      Sep 30, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng L6SDE
      Both of you get out of here with your tribal “my company is better than your company” high school bullshit.
      Sep 30, 2018
  • LinkedIn Brooklin
    TC is not similar
    Sep 29, 2018 23
    • Google topCon
      Yes, sorry. Multitasking here.

      Netflix is actually the toughest to beat in a bidding war. 400k in cash vs 400 cash+RSUs. No 4 year drop-off
      Oct 1, 2018
    • Amazon IScL36
      Whoa... someone is really offended. Yeah amazon pays less than google. So what? Chill dude.
      Oct 6, 2018
    • Amazon / Other WarrenPeas
      Either someone deleted all their comments or I can't see them. It looks like Google talking to themselves. Haha
      Oct 6, 2018
    • LinkedIn k4SwP
      Basically someone at Amazon trying to prove that stock appreciation is the same as TC
      Oct 6, 2018
    • Google topCon
      Yes he deleted his comments. He was saying these days Amazon offers are competitive to FNG. I kinda disagreed with it ;)
      Oct 6, 2018
  • BuzzFeed / Eng
    0xdead

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    0xdeadmore
    Um... Less prestigious? In which universe?
    Sep 29, 2018 5
    • Amazon / Eng 5'6
      You don't believe Amazon is less prestigious than G/FB?
      Sep 29, 2018
    • New EVlp62
      Amazon is not less prestige at all. I see fb and google people joining amazon all the time and the traffic flows other way as well and becoming high performers at fb n g
      Sep 29, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng 5'6
      I appreciate your comments, and yes people flow both ways, but on average top talent would rather work at g/fb than amazon. More perks, better comp usually, better brand.
      Sep 29, 2018
    • New EVlp62
      Not sure if entirely true but maybe on average, it's closer to being right than not. I honestly dont care abt perks (free food and shit. I make enough TC to not care abt those) wlb sure but I coded as much as I did in Amazon and fb and google (out of my enjoyment coding) some people dont like this but I like Amazon's ownership end to end. I see the efficiency of g and fb from their sre, and production engineering but I like that in Amazon I get to do devops on my product. At the end, to me, it's all about TC.
      Sep 29, 2018
    • Amazon Jdueyb
      In which universe? All of them. If you have to ask this , it’s time to look inwards
      Sep 30, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng
    onMyWay

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    To be blunt: lack of perks. That’s about it. The hiring bar might be lower, but we PIP the shit out of our employees, so the deadbeats get removed quickly.
    Sep 29, 2018 22
    • Amazon / Eng
      onMyWay

      Amazon Eng

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      Nah, you’re right. Cancerous was the wrong word to use.
      Sep 30, 2018
    • Google JPpr12
      OnMyWay so you were at Google for 1 year and then moved to AWS. You have never worked anywhere else have you?

      I'm not sure you understand innovation. Growing ads by 25% yoy even when it's a solved problem takes skill. The improvements coming out of brain, waymo tech are pretty darn innovative too.

      Cloud is innovative too but if I were to use your own logic, then what's new here? It's the same distributed systems stuff that has been done since early 2000s.

      Amazon does some things well, Google does some other things well. Amazon has grown a lot over past few years and I'm really happy for that because of the gains from my Amazon stock. But that's about it. I worked for two teams in Amazon (including EBS) before moving to Google and it is infinitely better here.

      My friends at Amazon want to move to Google. I don't know anyone here who wants to move to Amazon. I'm sure there would be some who are looking for career growth because they are stuck at L5 here but that's about it
      Sep 30, 2018
    • Google JPpr12
      Amazon stock has gone up 3-4x over past 3-4 years but it isn't going to continue doing so unless you believe that Amazon will add 1T more of market cap in next 12 months
      Sep 30, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      onMyWay

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      JPpr, that’s correct.

      25% yoy is meaningless when it’s a duopoly. If there was actual competition, you’d be right.

      As both you and I know, the group of people in waymo or brain is relatively small and are more or less rockstars. You’re right that it’s cool stuff, but it’s a small group of people working on them.

      New services around serverless, AI, BD, DS are launching every few months at GCP, AWS, Azure. The innovation in this area is crazy. EBS is a shit show.

      I work along side several people (including myself) that are ex-googlers. I’ll grant you that there’s probably not many in retail or even Alexa, but there’s a ton in AWS, especially in the new products and services (not so much in the established cash cows).
      Sep 30, 2018
    • Amazon / Ops doodah1122
      Sv
      Jan 13
  • Fitbit / Eng Lacroix575
    This is a stupid question. The idea of these companies having prestige is BS. Worked at FB and there's nothing prestigious about it other than a bunch of people who think they are better than everyone else because they knew the answers to the leetcode questions they got asked. If you really are passionate about something that one of those companies does than have at it you'll really enjoy yourself, but don't work at a company because of some perceived level of prestige, I find it much harder to get offers at the smaller growing companies than the brain farms like FB, Google, Amazon, MSFT, Apple, etc
    Sep 30, 2018 8
    • AdRoll / Eng ipopwc
      Lacroix575 gets it. This isn’t college application time, this is your life and career. Make the money you need to live the life you want, and try to do it somewhere you feel valued. His comment about smaller startups is dead-on: culture bullshit doesn’t fly/we smell it a mile away. There’s no ladder to climb at smaller companies and that means everyone is there to actually DO GOOD WORK.

      FANG hiring is very different and much more lax when it comes to culture fit. I make a good bit less than the FB offer I was given in order to work somewhere that made sense culturally for me and that wanted me adding to their culture.

      FANG folks talk about culture in a very abstracted way that makes me question the reality of internal dynamics and ever being able to have genuine teams that I trust there.

      These are the things I value; not crapping on those who just think “max TC, good snacks, or bust”.
      Sep 30, 2018
    • Cognizant / IT
      Autobi-t

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      @gostar kavanaugh does...
      Sep 30, 2018
    • PeerStreet / Other
      MonGarl162

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      @ipopwc spending 2+ years at a FANG will accelerate your career much more than 5 years at a string of shitty startups nobody has heard of.

      Sorry but that’s the truth. Unless you get lucky with an early uber or Airbnb gig your best bet is to join a FANG
      Oct 1, 2018
    • Cognizant / IT
      Autobi-t

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      When most people hear FANG, they think of Dracula.
      Oct 1, 2018
    • Amazon akshas
      To the point about FB: it struck me as a bunch of people who had seriously drunk the koolaid and was mimicking the words their leader spoke without thinking for themselves. This was an actual convo with a manager at FB:
      Example:
      They: we are different from Amazon. We have a culture of engineering. Engineering drives ground up, all of our decisions and innovation”
      Me: how does a teams success get measured?
      They: Delivering project goals, delivering results
      Me: how do project goals get set, projects get prioritized?
      They: we work towards business goals. Sometimes we go fast to launch, sometimes we have to negotiate engineering work
      Me: hmmm. sounds very much like Amazon.
      Oct 1, 2018
  • Microsoft Fefe
    If you think that Amazon is even comparable to Google then you need urgent help right now.

    Enjoy your bananas.
    Sep 29, 2018 7
    • New EVlp62
      It would be a liberal thought to blame the circumstances for bad performance. If tools are what making an engineer great/smart then what's the point of hiring great/smart engineers to begin with. Makes no sense. And who are those that aren't getting pip'd then? They must be smarter than einstein then
      Sep 29, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng 5'6
      I think Google is overall better than Amazon, but let's face it, Google is not the company it used to be. Perks have declined overall, quality of food has declined, projects are mostly boring nowadays (it's a crapshoot to land in search/Brain), hard to get promoted. Doesn't have the prestige it used to with 90k employees. It really is similar to Microsoft in many ways. Also Amazon's tools/infrastructure is underrated. I've heard first hand from people working at G/FB that Amazon's was more superior in some ways.
      Sep 29, 2018
    • Microsoft Fefe
      EVlp62, when you don’t have the adequate tools, you will need more time and less intelligence to do your job. And your success becomes a function of how many hours you work
      Sep 29, 2018
    • New EVlp62
      What tools are you talking about? When I was at Amazon I used Google s open source, netflix s titus, LinkedIn s Kafka, etc etc. What tools are lacking in Amazon that google and fb has?? Give me some details. I wasnt any less productive in amazon than I was in google and facebook
      Sep 29, 2018
    • Google JPpr12
      When were you at Google and when were you at Amazon?
      Sep 30, 2018
  • Microsoft / Eng
    GncJ06

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    TC is not even close... Also Amazon doesn't give refreshers and raises with the BS story of the stock going up and that you should be grateful (don't know how employees buy that). I guess the only people working there are people with no better options or management. And this is why.
    Sep 29, 2018 7
    • New EVlp62
      Personal opinion here. I would not even consider Microsoft as an option for my career in software. Perhaps when I get old and have family, I might change my mind
      Sep 29, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      onMyWay

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      Sorry we PIP so many Microsoft folk. They’re not cut out for actually being productive. Not sure what you guys do across the lake, but the drive disappears.
      Sep 30, 2018
    • Microsoft Discounter
      Please PIPing is just code for not knowing how to grow teams or employees. Good leadership is being able to turn average into great. Your PIPing process is just costly and unproductive in long run. Amazons tech teams are still relatively new and you will see how toxic middle management and employee mismanagement will treat you guys in the long run. But enjoy the fun and keep finding excuses to throw decent people out who can thrive in a better environment.
      Sep 30, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      onMyWay

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      Except the people that are PIP’d, especially those from Microsoft don’t actually do much. We can get more productive people.
      Sep 30, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng SenoritaWE
      I’ve known a handful of coworkers that left for Amazon and only one of them was super talented. I’ve known way more coworkers leave for Google and Facebook over the years - and they were all good, sad to see them go!
      Sep 30, 2018
  • Google topCon
    Try not to work for a company that
    - will screw you over due to stock growth
    - will screw you over with back loaded vesting schedule
    - will screw you over with refreshers that vest 2 years later
    - espouse frugality as a leadership principal
    - give you only bananas as a perk
    - has no annual bonuses
    - has bad wlb
    - has 3 year vesting for 401k

    And most all, an SDM that's been drinking too much company Kool Aid ;)
    Sep 30, 2018 7
    • Amazon Bygkn
      we dont even get free soda and fruits. No free bananas.
      Oct 1, 2018
    • Google topCon
      No free bananas? Are you sure?
      Oct 1, 2018
    • Google topCon
      Atg - any company match for 401k vests in 3 years. If you leave, the money is clawed back for invested amount.

      Amazonians can correct me if I'm wrong
      Oct 1, 2018
    • Uber atg_lord
      I googled it, minor detail difference but it's true. This is just unbelievable
      Oct 1, 2018
    • Amazon elebanda
      Man @topCon is very right. I have really good WLB & TC & really like Amazon & my team. However he’s spot on the things listed.
      Oct 5, 2018
  • Google gostar
    Prestige is directly correlated to the difficulty of getting in. That's why Harvard is prestigious. If it's tough to get in, then those that made it must be good, meaning that others who are good gravitate towards "prestige." Perception fuels reality and you have a virtuous circle that G / FB benefit from. So in two words, the reason G / FB are more prestigious is not TC or perks or product or profit. It is:

    Exclusivity

    Which means

    Hiring bar
    Sep 30, 2018 8
    • Amazon Victor
      I’ve seen two Amazonians go to Google. One was a superhuman. The other was a college kid that struggled to wipe his own ass.
      Sep 30, 2018
    • Google ffyhguh
      And I have worked with sde2s at Amazon who couldn't produce correct code, without requiring significant inputs in code reviews. Had no idea/were clueless when asked to work or deep dive into a new service/system. My team at Amazon hosted a lot of away teams, and we primarily worked with sde2s.
      And guess what 80% were shit.

      Coming to sde1s, not sure how were more than half of them even hired. When I created SIMs/tasks to be executed by sde1 I had no hope, I usually had to write details like "change this class in this service, put a prod check etc, deploy it, then change this class in this service etc"

      Sde3s were really dynamic and technically sound. I did work with one and learnt a lot from him. I am glad sde3 bar hasn't been lowered yet.
      Sep 30, 2018
    • Oracle cOrn48
      Many join Goog by means of acquisitions.... it’s free prestige earned for them !!
      Oct 2, 2018
    • New / Eng
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      They still need to pass the same set of interviews.
      Oct 2, 2018
    • Microsoft Rrdk14
      May be true for Google but seems anyone can get into FB these days. And leave with your data...
      Oct 2, 2018
  • Google / Eng Folaad
    Moved from amzn to G and can’t be happier. Everyone knows that G is better company than amzn in most ways (which includes tech, opportunities, hiring bar, comp, perks).

    Amzn on the other hands only serves SDMs and bezos. It has very toxic culture. During my stay, I never came across a dev who was happy in AWS. Everyone was overworked, always complaining about oncall, stupid compensation strategy.
    Sep 30, 2018 16
    • Google topCon
      This called the "Google 15". 15 lbs gained working there. But...we have over a dozen free gyms on-site with free personal trainers, with juice bars as well for after workout refreshments.

      Amazonians, come on in! With open arms ;)
      Oct 1, 2018
    • Oracle / Eng Figment
      15? More like 50. 15 is what you gain when your Amzn SDM force feeds you bad IPA and Zeeks every Friday. The gyms are crowded and you get a better workout walking to them I guess.
      Oct 1, 2018
    • Google topCon
      15 is first month only!
      Oct 1, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng jNeo42
      A workout followed by a sugary beverage? You don’t understand weight loss very well.
      Oct 1, 2018
    • Google topCon
      Therefore 15 lbs weight gain.
      Oct 1, 2018
  • Uber / Other PiGVomit
    Frugality. The richest man in the world is the least generous of all tech leaders.
    Sep 30, 2018 1
    • Microsoft / Eng BamI53
      That’s how he became the richest.
      Sep 30, 2018
  • Microsoft / Eng JavaMonstr
    Hiring bar... I guess?
    Sep 29, 2018 0
  • Amazon / Eng jNeo42
    Prestige isn’t the issue, it’s the management culture. Amazon is most certainly prestigious, I’d guess that working at Google is quite easy by comparison. But Amazon SDEs are treated like FC workers, main differences being desk vs standing, and monthly sprints rather than daily quota. But those monthly sprints at Amazon *are* daily quotas. Your manager does expect around 1/22nds of that sprint every GD day. Don’t ever forget that — it’s the lynchpin to the “Deliver Results” LP, the deadliest of them all. At Google you might have an entire quarter to get crap done. I don’t know about FB. But at Amazon — at that blasted daily standup — your SDM thinks exactly the same as the line supervisors in FCs. Oh, and you need to fit in all of your OE/EE shit as well (usually on your own dime, something SDMs rarely have to do). No good engineer or artist wants to be micromanaged, but at Amazon it is NOT an option. That, my friends, is what sucks the most about working for Amazon.
    Sep 30, 2018 9
    • Facebook
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      Holy shit Amazon is not prestigious, quit sucking Jeff's dick.
      Sep 30, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      onMyWay

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      Don’t you have work to do on my parent’s social network and securing the information of the people that weren’t in the 50 million user leak announced a couple days ago?
      Sep 30, 2018
    • Google gostar
      Prob, but amazon still isn't prestigious
      Sep 30, 2018
    • Facebook
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      @onMyWay Nope, I work for Instagram, but nice try buddy
      Sep 30, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng Aging314
      If it’s not prestigious what should I do as an Amazon new grad? I’ve been leetcoding but I still suck.
      Sep 30, 2018
  • eBay / Eng
    Lool

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    Hiring bar is one thing which is a clear difference. G~F >>>>>>> A
    Sep 29, 2018 7
    • eBay / Eng
      Lool

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      @Yahoo Gorilla : I know people who currently have joined Amazon without onsites or any significant technical rounds.
      Sep 29, 2018
    • eBay / Eng
      Lool

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      Apple depends on the team. My Siri interview was hard for a new grad. Maybe harder than F
      Sep 29, 2018
    • New / Eng namon
      I don’t think that no onsite Amazon is that common. Not sure if they had came to some conclusion after such experiment, but as a new grad I had to do onsite to get offer
      Sep 30, 2018
    • Sogeti eqdy52
      Difficulty is relative. I found FB interviews way easier than Amazon
      Sep 30, 2018
    • New / Eng namon
      imho in the end for entry level anyone can get in all of these if you got enough time do lots of leetcode..
      Sep 30, 2018
  • New simianz
    To me Google is like Harvard and Amazon is like Cornell. Amazon is easier to get into, but harder to survive. Both still pretty damn prestigious to be involved with to the population at large, but in elite circles, Google has an extra inch and half when they whip em out.
    Sep 29, 2018 5
    • Cruise Automation dudarine
      I dunno why but I don’t know anyone from harward who is not a lawyer. Cornell, cm, mit - plenty, harward - zero
      Sep 29, 2018
    • New simianz
      Cornell is the best ivy for engineering. Harvards a lot less diverse, and has a much smaller undergraduate student body.
      Sep 29, 2018
    • Google / Eng BiggusD
      Cornell is hardly an ivy
      Sep 29, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng Aging314
      @BiggusD people like you disgust me. If you think people from Cornell are inferior I don’t even want to know what you think of people like me
      Sep 30, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      UTukMyJerb

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      Cornell has some of the highest rates of suicide so maybe you are on to something.
      Sep 30, 2018
  • PayPal ZoorSeBolo
    IMO Anything is more prestigious than Facebook at this point
    Sep 30, 2018 2
    • Airbnb MC++
      Not PayPal
      Sep 30, 2018
    • New / IT webdye
      Because of all the scandals? They still dominate their business and pay very well. Maybe we think of prestige different. Can you elaborate?
      Oct 1, 2018
  • Google TrolDTrols
    I think it’s because of the products.

    Google search results feel magical when they show exactly what you are looking for.

    Amazon feels like just another shopping website with larger inventory.
    Sep 29, 2018 11
    • New EVlp62
      Aws? Alexa?
      Sep 29, 2018
    • Google TrolDTrols
      Compared to search , maps which have no competitors, cloud is crowded space . Google assistant is better than Alexa
      Sep 29, 2018
    • New EVlp62
      Better in what ways? From non tech friends I have around the us, i dont know anyone who doenst use alexa and I dont know anyone who uses g assistant. I'm willing to give g assistant a try but I'm happy with Alexa and too many of my home devices, thermostat, smartswitchs all have alexa built in so hard to switch out of it. Btw I wasnt referring to amazon being better at a particular thing, i was highlighting that it isn't just a retail site. I love many of google products and even open source tools
      Sep 29, 2018
    • Google TrolDTrols
      Ah ok . When I said retail site, I was talking about public perception.

      Personally I am a huge admirer of innovation at amzn and consider the logistics they handle much more complicated than handling pure data.
      Sep 30, 2018
    • Uber / R&D jidao
      What's Alexa?
      Sep 30, 2018
  • Airbnb Vxi
    “Prestige” is determined by a nebulous mix of TC and selectiveness among other factors. Amazon is far behind FB and Google in both.

    In terms of TC, Amazon would not be competitive if not for stock growth.

    In terms of hiring bar, Google/Facebook reject 200+ candidates for each offer and has low tolerance for false positives. In contrast, Amazon’s model is to hire less selectively with a 5/15/40/40 vesting schedule and to manage out low performers before 80%+ of their grants vest.

    The only reason why Amazon is even mentioned alongside Google and Facebook is thanks to Cramer coining the “FANG” term for high-growth stocks.
    Sep 30, 2018 9
    • Asana Obama
      Apple also has more reliable comp (although probably still not competitive with FB and Google) when you factor in their high refreshers.
      Oct 1, 2018
    • Amazon Usernahme
      Everyone here is getting the FANG thing wrong. First Apple is included. The real term is FAANG.
      This is an acronym used in the investment industry to refer to the top 5 technology companies that have been drivers of growth in tech and references for the overall behavior of the market.
      The only reason why investors use this is because they are part of S&P 500, have been beating indexes and other attractive stocks, all of them trade at NASDAQ and investors have been very bullish on these regardless of the market conditions.

      There are dozens of companies with equally competitive TCs and extraordinary stock growth (e.g: Nvidia). So yeah, people who use FANG as a reference here are just idiots who know nothing besides "Facebook and Google are cool and pay very well but I don't really know anything about it and I'm basing all this on what someone told me, and my life goal is to work at one of those companies, otherwise I'll die of depression"
      Oct 1, 2018
    • Google topCon
      There is no wrong or right with FNG, FANG, or FAANG. Just depends on your topic of conversation.

      FANG is Cramer's label for high performing stocks. Sure you add Apple in there as well.

      When it comes to highest TC offers in the industry, it's really just FNG.

      If Uber IPO is successful and they offer high TC as well, then it'll be FUNG.

      Clear?
      Oct 1, 2018
    • Collective Health / Eng SpoonMorn
      Usernahm you gotta realize having these top companies on your resume opens doors in the future. So there’s definitely some logic to it. It’s an arbitrary.
      Oct 1, 2018
    • Qualcomm / Eng ItsYourMom
      I heard google wrote a bunch of lowball offers in recent years....
      Oct 2, 2018
  • Facebook
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    Amazon = Underpaid, shitty stock vesting, cultish leadership principles, no perks, horrible work culture, no WLB, shitty management.

    So basically, the company that's perfect for people who are too stupid to join FB/G
    Sep 30, 2018 4
    • Amazon / Eng Aging314
      Wait i didn’t get knot FB or g. Am I stupid too you think?
      Sep 30, 2018
    • Google / Eng ;O 𓂺
      Yes
      Sep 30, 2018
    • Amazon morpheus1
      Cultish LPs for sure. Every little statement that Jeff makes is heralded and repeated like a gospel. He is practically the second coming of Jesus.
      Oct 1, 2018
    • Amazon U6y3qejT
      My personal favorite is the last years “customer anecdotes vs. data” thing. Every ML person around suddenly dropped everything they were doing to get in line with the new party direction.
      Oct 1, 2018