What will be your next move if you were me!

Visa chuchufr
May 12 45 Comments

11 YOE / I7 at visa (Lead /Director level)
on H1B
234k TC
Cyber Security
I don't foresee much growth in the current team.
Didn't solve any leetcode yet but wanted to join FAANG at least by end of 2020.

I wanted to target L7 equivalent roles at FAANG.

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TOP 45 Comments
  • Google gulli
    Sorry to disappoint but it's pretty common for ex CTOs, Directors, Distinguishedes, from non FAANG to start at L5. TC is made more attractive than average L5 with huge stock offers.
    May 12 7
    • NetScout / Eng batua
      Stop pointing to L7. L7 at Google is super high.
      May 12
    • Google gulli
      Need to know Google specific tech. Average L3 or L4 is very strong and independent technically, on par with a principal (minus the years of experience) elsewhere. They won't blindly accept some high level outside hire as their lead, and may challenge if they think you're over leveled or over paid relative to worth. There are rare exceptions hired at those levels from non FAANG, usually people who have a reputation and name recognition in the industry or academia, or had multiple successful exits
      May 12
    • Oracle chloe5
      True.. OP Google will down level you to L5
      upto 300k TC
      May 12
    • Google jeoffery
      I know a L6 hire he had 15 yoe and it's well published. He said he was "lucky" to get L6. Most get L5....
      May 12
    • Google gulli
      Also there is a perception that bringing in outsiders into positions of power will ruin the culture. No other company comes close in terms of openness, bottom up questioning, and even though people complain about that aspect changing, the complaints are usually about outside management not understanding the Google Way.
      May 12
  • Visa Director is entry level manger in FAANG
    May 12 1
  • Move off the H1B and into a GC. That will give you a ton of possibilities.
    May 12 3
    • Yes .. just go to Walgreens and get a pack of 4😆
      May 12
    • Amazon / Product
      T2

      Amazon Product

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      TripAdvisor
      T2more
      What are you smoking at Intel?
      May 12
    • New / Eng cousin
      With the rewards card they give you a discount
      May 12
  • Even security guard at visa has title of director
    May 12 0
  • Facebook ouisa
    Zero chance you’ll get L7 coming from Visa lead. L5 if you’re lucky and it’ll still dwarf the 234TC.
    May 12 0
  • Amazon / Eng bingming
    It sounds like it’s already obvious. Join FAANG.
    May 12 0
  • Google antispam
    Join FAANG, but you’ll be a L5 @ Google with a 300K+ TC.
    May 12 2
    • Visa chuchufr
      OP
      Hmm. I see my 2019 estimated TC will be around 280k+ including refreshers at the current role. I need to target something better than L5 to make it a difference for me, of joining FAANG
      May 12
    • Google antispam
      L5 can be 400+ for you because of your YOE. Google will most likely downlevel you to L5, however, will beat other offers and ensure that salary is not an issue.
      May 12
  • Equifax
    flstercluk

    Equifax

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    Chase Paymentech
    flsterclukmore
    I think you should consider us. While we are not listed among FAANG, we have more valuable data than Facebook and we are moving to google for work. We are doing what Facebook is trying to do for 100 years. Our CEO told congress that our tech is 20 years old. Lot of growth opportunities.
    May 12 3
    • Google antispam
      Would you offer 450K+? If so, I’d consider 😀
      May 12
    • NetApp dybfjn
      Recruiter spotted
      May 12
    • Microsoft / Product
      Brazuka

      Microsoft Product

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      Bain & Company
      Brazukamore
      It's a trap!
      May 12
  • Google / Ops Huhf13
    This is L6
    May 12 3
    • Google antispam
      Most likely L5 I believe
      May 12
    • Microsoft / Product
      Brazuka

      Microsoft Product

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      Bain & Company
      Brazukamore
      Amazon it's L7. Maybe that's the company he had in mind
      May 12
    • Google / Ops Huhf13
      Yeah, probably L5. Or L6 at AWS. No way L7
      May 12
  • Facebook rahuja
    I know a visa L6 who joined google as L3, ymmv
    May 12 0
  • Nokia iuPU88
    Better take risk to join start up instead of FAANG
    May 12 0
  • Visa chuchufr
    OP
    Ok. Cyber Security, in general, should have some added premium right?. Can anyone throw some light about cybersecurity in FAANG?
    May 12 5
    • Google antispam
      Working in Security @ Google. What do you like to know? Btw, do you work for Visa Research or they are different?
      May 12
    • Google / Ops Huhf13
      Added premium? No
      May 12
    • Dell LUHV04
      Question to google - I am from data storage background, and work in management
      For the next role , I Would be going for software development or other allied roles

      For he jump after that , I would like to shift to security. How do I go about that ? CISSP to start ?
      May 12
    • Google antispam
      If you join Google, you can just join a security team and learn while working as a general SWe
      May 12
    • Dell LUHV04
      Ok thanks
      May 13
  • Dell LUHV04
    What role would be at L7?
    May 12 2
    • Visa chuchufr
      OP
      senior staff or Lead ?
      May 12
    • Google / Ops Huhf13
      VISA has tried to unsuccessfully lure L7s to be VPs. Unsuccessfully.
      May 12
  • Amazon zZO57
    This is E5/T5/L6 , senior engineer at FAANG
    May 12 0
  • Morgan Stanley ninja007
    Titles don’t transfer across to FAANG 1-1 from Visa (or other industries in general)

    But you can get a closer idea based on your role/responsibilities - but be ready for a down level. How many engineers/dev managers do you manage at Visa? Depending on the company - you may or may not need LC for Manager roles.

    You can target for L6 at Amazon or L5 at Google and easily go well past your current TC
    May 12 0
  • Samsung 566;)effyw
    Visa Bay Area?
    May 12 2
    • Visa chuchufr
      OP
      No, Southern United States
      May 12
    • Visa
      yooooo

      Visa

      BIO
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      yooooomore
      Dude, you already have a great TC for Austin.
      May 12
  • Google dCyj41
    I don't know Visas leveling. How many reports do you have total?
    May 12 0

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