What’s a good ICT4 offer at Apple these days?

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Jan 17 36 Comments

Checked levels.fyi but I can’t believe it’s usually less than 300k given it’s a terminal level. (There are a few outliers on levels.fyi but it seems they entered 4 years stock as per year)

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  • Apple / Eng cho Chang
    A good offer by Apple standards is 190k base, 450k RSUs, 100k signing.
    Jan 18 9
    • New xhgff
      Load of shit here with ict4 talk
      Jan 19
    • Apple / Eng
      baybabe

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      baybabemore
      What is IS&S??
      Jan 19
    • Apple / Eng cho Chang
      @baybabe services.
      Jan 19
    • Apple / Eng
      baybabe

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      baybabemore
      Ah. Thanks. Is the work related to Machine learning / neural networks / augmented reality or just good old software engineering?
      Jan 19
    • Apple / Eng cho Chang
      Regular SWE. Folks at Apple working on ML/neural networks/AI/AR get paid considerably more.
      Jan 19
  • New xhgff
    I got 185 base 220 rsu 40k bonus offer in early Dec
    Jan 18 8
    • TI UILS77
      Which group it is? SW or SEG, i am expecting an offer soon.
      Jan 18
    • Apple / Eng
      baybabe

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      SEG
      Jan 18
    • Rakuten iuUh62
      What is the difference between SW and SEG. Are they both software groups?
      Jan 18
    • Apple / Eng
      baybabe

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      baybabemore
      SW is software, SEG is silicon engineering group which is responsible for creating the A series chips which power all iPhones, iPad, Watch, etc. etc.
      Jan 19
    • Disney l1m4l
      Is “refresher” different from RSU?
      Jan 20
  • Oath zvEs34
    my initial offer was 230k base, 650k rsus, 100k signon for ict5. Had google offer. 20 years of experience.
    Jan 20 1
    • InvenSense DPjb12
      What did you end up after negotiations?
      Mar 8
  • Apple JobsAtApp
    Most mid - higher band ict4 start with 250k+. Refreshers is good. Also it’s not a terminal level.
    Jan 17 9
    • Apple JobsAtApp
      Ok then ict4 is terminal level.
      Jan 18
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      pKlN88

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      Thanks! What does a typical refresher look like?
      Jan 18
    • Apple moz
      Depends heavily on orgs/perfs... for a good year as ict4 in SWE, $120K refresher is the norm.
      Jan 18
    • Apple JobsAtApp
      I got at least 130k every year. But i know average performers get 65k-100k.
      Jan 18
    • Disney l1m4l
      What is a “refresher”? Is that different than RSU?
      Jan 20
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    baybabe

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    baybabemore
    I got 195 base, 200 rsu, 45k bonus. Had a competing offer from FB that helped with the RSUs. Stock was at its peak, so got screwed over too! Their first offer was pathetic!!! - YOE 12
    Jan 18 4
    • TI UILS77
      I too have same experience, hoping to get better offer.
      Jan 18
    • TI UILS77
      What is your IC level 4 or 5
      Jan 18
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      pKlN88

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      babe are you in swe or hw?
      Jan 18
    • Apple / Eng
      baybabe

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      baybabemore
      ICT4 HW. SWE Gets way more than that!! I realized that you need to have a good competing offer or HR will low ball you like shit!!
      Jan 18