What’s your burnout story?

Microsoft Darth G
Feb 21 222 Comments

How did you get burnout and how did you recover?

Mine: I founded and led a startup for years that ultimately ran out of cash. Instead of taking a break I jumped straight into a cross country move and a high pressure engineering management role in a new super fucked up organization that almost immediately started imploding: massive overwork, endless project cancellations, team reshuffling, etc. Did that for a year and I’m so burned out I can’t even get out of bed to go to work anymore. Planning to just resign.

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  • Amazon
    poorrep

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    poorrepmore
    I was in consulting for many years and was working multiple clients at any given time. During one week, I remember clocking 85 hours and that went on for months. Then, they asked me start traveling, so I started traveling on Sundays, so I could make it to the client site by Monday. 2 years went by like this, with 1 day in the weekend. I went to the doctor and she said I’d gained weight, had high blood pressure and borderline cholesterol. I came home that day and sent an email to the partner saying that week would be my last week. Best decision I ever made! A month later, the partner got fired because of the burnout on the team. Moral of the story: don’t be an idiot and put yourself through that.
    Feb 2118
    • 6sense airT14
      Op - doesn’t Microsoft have social sabbaticals? I had that at my previous employer and I’ve seen people take that to volunteer - recharge and think about what they want to do next while remaining employed.
      Feb 23
    • Microsoft Darth G
      OP
      Never heard of it. I’ve requested unpaid leave. We’ll see what they say Monday. If I can’t get it I’ll probably quit. I haven’t liked Microsoft at all anyways so no worries if I have to job hunt
      Feb 24
    • Western Digital YhRR24
      Can’t talking to a psychologist help get FML? You’ll not loose your pay (at least 60% of that)
      Feb 24
    • Amazon CurryChode
      Was this at McKinsey, BCG, or Bain? I’ve been considering joining.
      Feb 24
    • Aon Hewitt winter 123
      Truthfully it depends on the client and project. A lot of times on the way they sell it as well. I've had clients who do not want us to go over 40 hours and then I've had "critical" deadlines where we worked long hours and the clients didn't care about the cost. Definitely don't over work yourself not worth it.
      Feb 24
    • Microsoft / Product
      Brazuka

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      Brazukamore
      My story is similar at Bain, had a terrible WLB, hated the micromanaging. Best thing that ever happened to me was them not sponsoring my MBA. I got a scholarship almost immediately, had 2 awesome years away from that mess and now have a cool job which I have great autonomy and impact while maintaining a fantastic lifestyle.
      Feb 24
    • Facebook sogone
      Love stories these stories of people leaving the meat grinder and moving on to better times. May sound cheesy but helps me to read these.
      Feb 26
    • Amazon
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      poorrepmore
      @sogone Helps everyone, trust me. Given our risk averse culture and how we are taught to have no gaps in our resume, I think the modern workforce needs to question those things and put themselves first. If you need the time, take it. Smart companies shouldn’t want a workforce that’s burnt out!
      Feb 26
    • EY / Consultant
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      Dimension Data, Unisys
      smists777more
      Taking inspiration from this post. Currently burnt out in consulting and trying to move but I just end up getting consulting firm calls. I guess I will be persistent. If anyone is open to referring, please let me know
      Feb 26
    • Microsoft Darth G
      OP
      Honestly the best career opportunities have happened when I was resigned or otherwise unemployed
      Feb 26
  • Uber Shutdwn
    An incompetent manager can cause burnout too. Not setting clear expectations, not supporting your growth, making chaotic decisions leaving you constantly running at the same spot wondering what he / she wants when they aren't really give a shit about you.
    Feb 2319
    • Flexport GMnJ57
      Yes
      Feb 23
    • LinkedIn Eng155
      What did they do to burn you out?
      Feb 23
    • Uber / Designbromance
      They (bad managers) literally say "yes" to everything so they can seem "collaborative" to their peer group and upper management
      Feb 23
    • @OP - are you me??

      Ha, but srsly, Uber middle management is a shit show
      Feb 24
    • Booking.com coast4ever
      we have a lot of them, our 2.3 score on glassdoor for devs is mainly due to shitty middle management. Lot of burnout and sick leave, people feeling depress and seeing a psychologist while our wlb is great, never overwork, no pressure for work, no one cares !
      Feb 24
    • Microsoft [
      Definitely this
      Feb 24
    • Facebook ujrx8r0
      What shutdwn describes is exactly my situation at FB and the very source of my burnout.
      Feb 24
    • DoorDash nonefactor
      +1
      Feb 24
    • Cruise Automation / Engummmwtf
      Omg so much this +1
      Feb 25
    • Microsoft / EngBsiw8sy2j8
      +1 doing an internal transfer as a result
      Feb 26
  • Microsoft osama
    I lost a couple of people from my family within two years and almost all my emotional support and plans about the future gone with their sudden deaths as well. I have been so lonely and lost my bonds with life since then and the recovery is too slow and painful. I thought that I was prepared for everything in life but it looks like I wasn't. The hardest thing is that no one gives a shit and they still expect you deliver stuff and be cheerful etc. I have a newborn now and things are getting better but still the life feels like lots of meaningless shit to me.
    Feb 2213
    • Microsoft [
      I tried several ssris, benzos based on the recommendation from my psychiatrist, as well as amphetamines and lots of therapy sessions. They made things even worse. I think it is best to take a long break and let your body adjust itself. I couldn't do that because they pay only %75 of your income when you are on leave but, as my salary were already on the lower side (lvl 61), I struggled and I'm still struggling financially. That makes healing process even slower. I started to understand how some people end up homeless after long term illnesses.
      Feb 23
    • Market Track pmnote
      I'm so sorry this happened to you. I hope you can hang on to whatever you can to keep going. The sun will shine again.
      Feb 23
    • Northrop Grumman / EngHowCouldYu
      Hey there, just want to say keep up the exercise. Whether you like it or not, the deamons will always be there my friend. Through loneliness and through happiness. No drug will solve the problem and it’s just a bandaid (as is exercise). But remember that you are human, and humans have experienced death since time started and look at humanity today. Don’t ever give up on investing in yourself, face those inner demons/running thoughts, work out, eat right, drink water, and repeat.

      I know we are not all fortunate enough to have the luxury of leisurely time, so I implore you not to waste yours! You can be the best human that you ever knew. It’s still fucking in there. Don’t let that guy go.

      Good luck, we are here.
      Feb 23
    • Command Alkon user2222
      I know what you mean. I've been through stuff several times in life and the toughest thing is always to see that people don't give a shit . If we were friends I promise I would give a shit. Been there. Good luck. Don't lose hope.
      Feb 23
    • 6sense airT14
      This is really difficult stuff. My heart goes out to you. Been there - but allow yourself some time and space to recover. Take it an hour at a time if need be. There are several ways to find support - try them out and see what makes you the most comfortable. But meanwhile please remember - this too shall pass. Better days will be here.
      Feb 23
    • Indeed / PRCDwY37
      Sorry you had to go through this. It’s a long painful process and sometimes nothing seems to work. It’s been almost two years since my traumatic experience and I still struggle day in day out. I lost my job because of it and am looking for a job while partially care taking for my parent who is recently diagnosed of cancer. It’s a dark tunnel, sometimes I just want to take a rest but I know I can’t. It will be different eventually, it just takes time I guess.
      Feb 24
    • Booking.com b.nope
      @CDwY37
      Stay strong, bro. I know, that is tough times. Parents are very important, but they wont be happy if you destroy your life because of them.
      Feb 24
    • @osama I can relate to your situation. I lost some of my best fallback and support in the family in past five years. I have been feeling depressed for about two years now.
      Occasionally I get triggered in wierd ways like I started crying when a feature which I was working on got assigned to another employee. I won't have ever imagined that I will be this sensitive to such trivial stuff.
      I keep reminding myself that this is trivial and I should get over it.

      On the plus side : I have never been able to relate to those people who get upset on small stuff or keep remembering years old deaths and grievances. After these episodes I feel more compassionate towards them. I wonder if all this experience is God's way of teaching me empathy towards the people whose behavior I haven't been able to logically understand.
      Feb 24
    • Facebook / DesignYOL28
      I had difficult times in life, but during my time in Europe. I took 6 month off and reinvented how I want to live my life. Loss sucks. If you want to heal the daemon try some healing in Peru. They have very effective methods. No joke.
      Feb 27
    • eBay tonytony
      Life is meaningless shit. And the purpose of this shit is to find a meaning.... how ironic
      Mar 1
  • Amazon Strike
    I work at amazon
    Feb 231
  • Facebook Ux35jh
    I work at Facebook. Must say that it is the most stressful job I ever have.
    Feb 2316
    • Facebook Solais
      Interesting, so many Uber people on blind always talk about how their WLB is as good as Google's
      Feb 23
    • Uber Shutdwn
      Depends on team.
      Feb 23
    • Uber / Designbromance
      Mostly lies
      Feb 23
    • Facebook sogone
      Also at Facebook, and agree it’s the most stressful emotionally draining job I’ve ever had. It’s taken over my life. I’m working on getting out.
      Feb 24
    • Facebook soakansh
      What team are you on? Swe? I’m living the chill life
      Feb 24
    • Facebook sogone
      I’m in Infra HWE.
      Feb 24
    • Northrop Grumman / EngHowCouldYu
      I swear the more I read about HWE I get spooked. Seems like they work you like dogs
      Feb 24
    • Facebook HkNn74
      Where did you work for before? While I agree it can be stressful, compared to my old job in consulting, it’s super relaxed. Had similar situation as someone else who posted earlier in this thread and completely burned out, took me a long time to feel normal again.
      Feb 24
    • Facebook soakansh
      Change teams - it is easy
      Feb 24
    • Facebook fooody
      Also a SWE at fb. Been here for 2.5 years and all I can say is that it HIGHLY depends on your team. My old team was a shit show regarding WLB. Everyone worked 60+ hours and weekends. My new team is super chill, I don’t work more than 35h/week with the same ratings. (Both teams in core app)
      Feb 25
  • Microsoft osama
    Do not resign. Take a leave and take care of yourself.
    Feb 228
    • Microsoft Darth G
      OP
      What’s the criteria to be eligible for a leave at Microsoft?
      Feb 23
    • Microsoft / SalesdfCG26
      Paid or unpaid? For unpaid there is no real criteria. For paid leave, perhaps you are referring to the sabbatical. That becomes available at L66 and at least 10 years at the company.
      Feb 23
    • Microsoft Darth G
      OP
      Thank you - any limit to the unpaid duration?
      Feb 23
    • Worst case they fire you and you lose your job there, but I don't see you lose anything from there .
      Feb 23
    • Microsoft desidude
      Hasn't anyone here heard of FMLA?
      Feb 23
    • Microsoft [
      Talk to your HR Benefits person about fmla
      Feb 24
    • Amazon / MgmtKYuG83
      At Amazon if you take a leave they will backfill you and manage you out when you return, unless it is parental or medical leave.
      Feb 24
    • LabCorp / IT
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      No work life balance, when they don't let you to take leave.. Time to think of someone who can think of you as well..
      Feb 24
  • SpaceX / Engplokjimnb
    I was tired of working my ass off for stupid ad tech so I quit my job to work on rockets and now I am even more burnt out lol
    Feb 235
    • Northrop Grumman / EngHowCouldYu
      Well ya you went to spaceX, lol c’mon now
      Feb 23
    • Pandora joystick
      How did you make that move? What’s your role?
      Feb 23
    • SpaceX / Engplokjimnb
      I'd rather not say exactly as it is a pretty small group and I'd dox myself.
      Feb 24
    • Amazon DankMatta
      Did you expect anything else lol? Musk's companies are known for their high stress environments
      Feb 25
    • SpaceX / Engplokjimnb
      I signed up for the pain in trade for a cool life experience and being able to contribute to something I like (progress in space exploration, not musk). I knew I would burn out eventually. But i'm half joking about burning out, so far I'm more or less OK. But it wasn't exactly a good career move..lol. More like career sacrifice, like spending a couple years in the Peace corps or something
      Feb 26
  • Microsoft innocent
    To burnout, you need to put the transmission into D, hold the footbrake down as firmly as possible, build up the revs of the car by pushing the throttle pedal.
    Feb 235
    • Airbnb NasirMack
      Or you may just completely lose control
      Feb 23
    • Morgan Stanley
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      ggdjD17more
      Sounds like my project
      Feb 23
    • New
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      turduck’nmore
      Great description!!
      Feb 23
    • Amazon pajamaman
      So basically keep working hard and get nowhere
      Feb 23
    • New Ti81R6
      Good metaphor. Maybe you just need to release the brake to get things going. Figuring out what is holding the brake could be challenging
      Feb 24
  • Microsoft Etxz24
    I work about 50-60 hours per week and I'm taking 21 credit hours this semester to try amd finish my undergrad.

    Im a cloud architect. Kill me please.
    Feb 234
    • Northrop Grumman / EngHowCouldYu
      Do you like the work though? Lol
      Feb 23
    • Northrop Grumman / EngHowCouldYu
      Been studying for Solution architecture; not sure if it’s chill or high stress
      Feb 23
    • HP / Eng
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      Brodozermore
      Cloud architect without an undergrad degree? Explain...
      Feb 23
    • Northrop Grumman / EngHowCouldYu
      Uhh undergrad should be implied.. and MS. Just not in CS
      Feb 23
  • New
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    turduck’nmore
    I kept on saying “this is fine, this is how it goes, just keep doing your best”. My mind was that puppy, standing in the burning room saying “this is fine”.

    My body stopped working though. It got sick. Really sick. It just didn’t like what I was doing at all. It didn’t like any of it and would shut down randomly. They called it “panic”. I wasn’t panicking. I was fine. My body made me dizzy. My body made me feel like I was dying. My body made me scared that my time on earth was ending.

    But my mind was just confused. What the hell is happening to me? My mind had the will, the drive, the desire. My body said stop.

    So I stopped. 12 weeks medical leave. Tai chi, nature walks. Relaxation. I’ve been ok since. But it was bad. The worst part is, I would still be going if my body didn’t start going into fight or flight.
    Feb 232
    • Northrop Grumman / EngHowCouldYu
      Yeah you shouldn’t do that to urself lol
      Feb 23
    • Visa Uejkos9
      This happened to me too. It was horrible. Took a couple of months to figure out what was going on with my body. Turns out it was my brain after all. Panic attacks are no joke.
      Feb 24
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    Happy Matsmore
    I lost my job, and took an honest assessment of what I was doing. I realized I let recruiters source me to jobs I didn’t want even through they were well compensated. Then I would work round the clock at these jobs while being miserable because it was what I was “supposed” to do and I was “lucky” to have the opportunity. The next recruiting season I interviewed people as much as they interviewed me, turned down interviews for jobs I didn’t want, and focused 100% only on opportunities I had high interest in. I also didn’t let recruiters source me to jobs I didn’t want by making it clear what I wanted to interview for. I’m thankful it worked.

    P.s I also stopped working for a full year to recenter myself during this time and focused on spending time with my family because I had neglected them for the past 3 years.
    Feb 231
    • Booking.com Bfkeo894hd
      What were the opportunities you had high interest in? I feel like I've made the same mistake, letting recruiters source me to jobs that I didn't want just because they were highly compensated. Now I want to change but don't know what I want.
      Feb 25
  • Autodesk prexitonic
    Currently having a constant level of stress that is both specific and vague at the same time. All the work I do seems over complicated at every level and whenever I attempt to bring it up it gets brushed off as perfectly normal. This leads me to thinking that it’s just me that “doesn’t get it” which adds more stress. I try to study more and improve at my job, but the more I learn the more I am convinced that things at work are way more complicated than they need to be. Project roadmaps are way too strict, requirements for tasks are vague and almost never account for any possible errors. Business rules are defined but not really documented only passed along view meeting notes. So I am constantly asking why we are doing things this way, but everyone keeps saying that it’s a good process, so I basically feel stupid for not understanding, stressed out because of frustration, and stuck because I fear working here has quite literally made me worse at what I do so I am trapped.
    Feb 266
    • Microsoft hollygoat
      When you don’t fit, it is not because you are stupid. Everyone has a fit and I have seen too many cases of lower performer here becoming a rockstar there. Different teams within the same company or Microsoft to Google. All of the low performers at Microsoft were promoted fast when they moved to Google. Everyone has a fit if they have above average work ethic and brain. Just need to explore.
      Feb 26
    • Autodesk prexitonic
      This makes sense. The idea of being elsewhere definitely makes sense. The problem for me is that I was never a low performer on my team. Quite the opposite. I just did all of that while being frustrated and feeling stupid. If I am being really honest, I didn’t really notice this stuff or the feeling of burnout at all. Not until I started dreading going into work or when I stopped asking questions or giving my opinion on things. I just did whatever work was put in front of me and left. After a little while it all sort of hit me like a brick to the head. It has been difficult to deal with as it has very seriously affected my confidence in my ability even though I can obviously see that my work has not suffered, but as it goes emotional damage does not really have to follow any logical rules, it just exists until you find a way to deal with it.

      So I would definitely like to be elsewhere, but I’m not really in a good enough place to interview right now. I have tried and I have just completely frozen up when given problems that I am entirely capable of answering or walking through. I begin to second guess myself a lot and by the time I realize I have been silent for just long enough to make it awkward. This is what gave me a clue that I might be fighting with fatigue or burnout.
      Feb 26
    • Amazon Hhjg
      This 🙌🏻 confidence levels definitely take a hit when dealing with this kinda shit
      Feb 26
    • eBay vta
      The only remedy for burnout is step back. Working hard would not solve, step back don't mean quit.. care bit less about thing make you burnout, take a vacation and tune off, switch team. I never seen anyone burnout due to work load, it's shit loaded management and co-worker or no right accountability, which hardworking cannot solve. Once you recover from burnout you will have better view to handle your situation. Burnout is not productive for both health and work. Care for yourself first, Your CEO will not die if something happened to your product or project you are working, but your beloved may if something happened to you.
      Feb 26
    • Splunk KE94107
      @prexitonic I hear ya. I wish the whole job-interviewing process were as easy as it was in the decade before 2010! It’s a royal pain now.
      Feb 27
    • Autodesk prexitonic
      I have never been committed to a company enough to think much about what the ceo wants. Unless I have a direct incentive to put in more than reasonable amount of extra work it generally doesn’t go that way. I always value my life over work, that’s part of why the things I am experiencing now took me by surprise. It definitely sucks.

      As for the interview process, I don’t mind it being difficult. It makes sense that it is. It just sucks to freeze up because of self doubt. That’s all on me.
      Feb 27
  • Airbnb / Eng0x00000000
    I worked at Facebook
    Feb 233
  • Microsoft BlueScreen
    Left MSFT for a startup after 10 years. That lasted several years, and was bought out by....MSFT! Wound up back here again ( at least I didn’t have to interview!!!!!). But that itch is back.
    Feb 234
    • Northrop Grumman / EngHowCouldYu
      Let me have your job then
      Feb 23
    • Amazon ldjsd62
      Probably made millions in the process?
      Feb 23
    • Flagged by the community.

    • Microsoft PMM’d
      Xamarin?
      Feb 24
  • Apple / EngBangOver
    When my mom came visit for 2 full months
    Feb 231
    • Microsoft
      Happy Mats

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      Lol
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  • Walmart.com derrrrrp
    We have great pay and great Work/Life balance. And we are hiring.

    PM me and I will refer you.
    Feb 235
    • New
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      If you are in corporate. What about the thousands of regular employees that your company abuses :(
      Feb 23
    • Walmart.com derrrrrp
      PM me and I will refer you.
      Feb 23
    • Northrop Grumman / EngHowCouldYu
      But Walmart? I just idk, i picture your office with a McDonald’s inside
      Feb 23
    • Walmart.com derrrrrp
      Google our e-commerce news. Or be happy with what you have.
      Feb 23
    • New / Other
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      @walmart
      Any Remotes or is it all in office?
      Feb 24
  • Google QCNY71
    I have had strep throat for two months, someone dude at work is trying to take credit for my work during perf, worked 10+ hour days the past two q's covering for someone on maternity leave and doing my full time job. I cant go on. #rantover
    Feb 232
    • Northrop Grumman / EngHowCouldYu
      Speak up. Don’t let that shit go unnoted
      Feb 23
    • BYTON kgxdb
      Stories like this make my blood boil 😫
      Feb 24
  • Microsoft huiii
    I was very close to burnout some years ago. Worked 80+ hours, studied in parallel, had a shit relationship that time and worked even Sundays and Saturdays. So one day I didn’t feel anything...nothing could motivate me to work, not even the money.

    I took 5 weeks off and recovered slowly over a year. But I had to learn to be focused on one single thing at a time. It was a really hard learning and bad time. Spent hours and hours in the woods and walked...walked...and walked...that helped me a lot.

    However, even though it‘s been years ago it‘s still not completely fixed as things like money or cars (what i loved much) can‘t really motivate me. Things that have been fun are now somehow boring. But i‘m recovered and successful in my role. I spend 2-4 hours a day with work...and it seems to be enough. I put myself first...and still looking for the real reason why i‘m on this planet. One thing that I know for sure is that it‘s not because of a shitty job and helping others to get rich!

    Take your time to recover!
    Feb 243
    • Microsoft iSatya
      That's right
      Feb 24
    • Amazon ldjsd62
      Do you think it’s due to age or did something else happen? How to get motivated again and feel great again?
      Feb 24
    • Microsoft huiii
      I got help from a physician and read a few inspiring books. From Tony Robbins to others. That helped me to realize that high expectations and perfectionism paired with loads of work lead to burnout. This time opened my eyes...while I felt burned out I started to realize that there are much more things which are worth to live. And guess what, it‘s not the job and the money! I felt that deeply for the very first time. Before, I was just thinking it‘s all about the money...and I need to chase it. What a mistake. Since then i‘m chasing my dreams and left money chasing behind...interesting is even though I don‘t really chase it i feel richer than before, and looking at my bank account gives me the same feeling. My advice: ask yourself what you wanna do and accomplish in your life apart of having a well paid job. I‘m still in the process but i‘m closer to the answer than ever before. And btw. It has nothing to do with the age I guess. I was around 30 when it happened.
      Feb 24
  • Zendesk bbtmt
    My crypto side project took off at the same time I switched job. I had no choice but to make it a startup with registered company name. One of my pals from the side project went full time on it but I stayed with my old(new) company. The company's work is very balanced but as a new comer I had a lot of learnings to do. Other than that I spent all my free time supporting my pal on the startup and sometimes had to go to oversea conferences as well. Life was hell until the whole crypto space (kinda) died at the end of last year. A blessing in disguise.
    Feb 232
    • Northrop Grumman / EngHowCouldYu
      BTC 50k end of 2020
      Feb 23
    • Zendesk pensie
      I dont argue against that but we did not ICO or crowdfunded. The project is an application that survives solely on its revenue so its hard to keep our 10 employees fed until that time.
      Feb 23
  • Amazon axmck
    For me, it’s right now. Rebuilding my 4th team/org in 2 years, have 2 very young children at home, wife works as much as I do and we both are stressed to the max with travel and single parenting often. It’s recently become clear that although we’re both innately driven people, we’ve been sacrificing in all the wrong places. Life is just too short and this work isn’t worth it.
    Feb 234
    • Microsoft zoig13
      Have you read How Would You Measure Your Life? If not, I strongly recommend. It gave me a lot of clarity on life priorities.
      Feb 24
    • Microsoft [
      Did you work for MS before? In Bellevue?
      Feb 24
    • Amazon axmck
      @zoig13 will check it out

      @[ - No, but I have worked for Microsoft in my past
      Feb 24
    • Amazon N0tSure
      Word. I’m sacrificing too much and getting nothing in return except a pat on the back and rent money. I also think life is too short and Amazon isn’t worth the best years of my life.
      Mar 9
  • Oracle ora-911
    because of people like you working your ass off and screwing your life and of those around you these companies expect everone to be like you guys. just slow down and enjoy life. you are not going live till hundred and even if you do majority of that remaining life till 100 you will live like a vegetable. slow down and learn to say no to your companies to stop sucking your blood.
    Feb 230
  • Splunk KE94107
    Stack-ranking arrived at Splunk in 2017. Now we’re told by HR to be all kumbaya collaborating with our peers while they figure out which dagger to slip between your ribs at annual review time.

    Burnout is caused by the universal rat-race. I think Jeff Immelt is the one who foisted this zero-sum virus on us.
    Feb 241
    • Microsoft PMM’d
      Tragically Funny how companies still believe in stack ranking in industries like tech, even after some high profile failures (Microsoft)
      Feb 24
  • Uber EFmw83
    I was a designer at a well know fashion retailer for a few years. After being there for 5 months, my boss left and his boss became my direct supervisor. She got seriously sick for a few months, and me and another designer were basically left to run the show on our own. I remember staying at work until 12:00 am almost everyday for a few months just trying to finish the work we had to make it in time for gift set release. We would show multiple rounds of designs to the merchants, and spent hours mocking up the renderings, to have them disapproved. We didn’t really have much support, and no one at work understood what we went through. We would often skip dinner because our company was so far from dining areas and it was in the dead of winter. I just remember feeling very undervalued and felt like a workhorse. There wasn’t bonuses or overtime for the additional work we did.. It was a miserable time in my life that I would never like to revisit. I was only a junior designer making 45k at the time. Needless to say, I learned a lot of skills from this experience and am super quick on illustrator and photoshop now hah
    Feb 242
    • PayPal / Engbeepboopp
      What's your background? HCI/UX? Visual design?
      Mar 7
    • Uber EFmw83
      Visual design, why?
      Mar 7
  • IBM / Eng
    skiddie

    IBMEng

    BIO
    open source
    skiddiemore
    Kubernetes. It's the same half dozen people, since I started. The core team on API and kubelet and kubectl are always complaining about being overloaded, yet they never on board new people. It was after I left that I learned that was intentional and by design. They never wanted people other than that to be making decisions.

    Luckily with CRDs you can own your own API and dump the bullshit status and spec ideosyncracies.
    Feb 231
    • Northrop Grumman / EngHowCouldYu
      Kubernetes is still hot rn
      Feb 23
  • Capital One AWRM27
    Burnout? Never that, Adderall.
    Feb 230
  • Microsoft / Salesrainsucks
    Don’t resign. Find something outside or join a different team . The culture of Microslave can be toxic based on the team. Hope you find peace in a great opportunity that makes you happy. Best!
    Feb 230
  • IBM / EngxuGg35
    Working for IBM.
    Feb 236
    • what do you do to get burned out?
      Feb 23
    • Northrop Grumman / EngHowCouldYu
      Ya this is a given, similar to the defense industry is what id imagine IBM and intel to be like
      Feb 23
    • Northrop Grumman / EngHowCouldYu
      aka very sad
      Feb 23
    • Facebook / Other
      Janitorque

      FacebookOther

      BIO
      Data scientist
      Janitorquemore
      You don't burn out at IBM. You slowly fade away.
      Feb 24
    • IBM pqbduwo
      @Janitorque yup except that I checked out 2 months into my new internal role at IBM lol. I'm currently trying to get out.
      Feb 24
    • Microsoft / EngBsiw8sy2j8
      I worked as a contractor for IBM before. It's shit
      Feb 26
  • Shopify / Mgmt
    2krob601g

    ShopifyMgmt

    PRE
    Apple
    2krob601gmore
    My burn out story is so traumatic that I'm paranoid that if I post it I'll be identified and get fired.
    Feb 245
    • Microsoft huiii
      Just do it. First important thing is to realize what happens/happened. Writing it down is like cleaning up the shit and getting rid of it.
      Feb 24
    • Shopify / Mgmt
      2krob601g

      ShopifyMgmt

      PRE
      Apple
      2krob601gmore
      No thanks.
      Feb 25
    • Microsoft huiii
      Then your are either a troll or you gonna pay for it in the long term
      Feb 25
    • Intuit Piper 🌂
      Speak the truth and release yourself from the psychological prison
      Feb 26
    • TextNow JohnMcPop
      Dude I'm just curious, is Shopify that bad??
      Feb 27
  • Amazon oclue
    Every single project i worked at Amazon in last 2 year has been a burnt out story
    Feb 242
    • Microsoft huiii
      Isn‘t amazon known for burning out people?
      Feb 24
    • Amazon oclue
      Isnt that what i just said?
      Feb 24
  • Microsoft zoig13
    5 years at a startup that had a successful acquisition exit. After multiple burnouts, I took a medical leave, didn’t do anything until I fully decompressed. Then I assessed my personal and professional priorities including what were core stressors, made a plan, came back to the old job and interviewed internally and externally for over 6 months (I was selective to make sure what led to burnout was not repeated at the next job). I was monitoring my state every week with medical professionals. The joy of learning new opportunities and meeting new people at interviews got me going. It was critical to feel that I was in control, too.

    Found an external role that matched my needs, including career growth opportunity. Negotiated for a future starting date, took 2 months off and traveled. Moved to a new city for a new job (this is not for everyone; I had enough friends in the new city), and this time I started with a careful balancing act between work and personal life.

    I am still figuring it out. I have become better at protecting the wlb boundaries, scope of work, detecting early symptoms and acting to prevent burnout. Still, inside I am a workaholic. But I do go home at 5-6pm nowadays, and I try my best to sleep better.
    Feb 240
  • Apple Watchguru
    I work at Apple...

    Learn to adjust to the build cycles
    Feb 238
    • Walmart.com derrrrrp
      No sleep till dub dub.
      Feb 23
    • Apple Watchguru
      ??
      Feb 23
    • Walmart.com derrrrrp
      Sounds like you aren’t in Engineering.
      Feb 23
    • Apple Watchguru
      Watch HWE
      Feb 23
    • Walmart.com derrrrrp
      Ahh assumed SWE.
      Feb 23
    • Amazon CurryChode
      I’d like to say I really appreciate the products you build. I got my mom and sister the series 4 and I got myself the Hermès. Keep up the good work.
      Feb 24
    • Apple Watchguru
      It’s the one thing that gives me a little job satisfaction, the watch is a tool that can really make us more healthy and aware of our bodies, unlike most the toys Apple makes
      Feb 24
    • Apple Watchguru
      Thank you!
      Feb 24
  • Airbnb NasirMack
    I had some IT experience years ago and then had to do nonsense bioscience research for years while waiting for my gc. After that I join a big tech company as a senior without much experience in distributed system and modern software development. I was literally working my ass off the first half year nonstop while being questioned/threatened by managers leads coworkers and to the point I cried in front one of them. I knew I need a break but I just can’t otherwise years effort is wasted and I would have to go back to ground 0. Eventually I pulled away and I’m ready for more challenges
    Feb 233
    • Northrop Grumman / EngHowCouldYu
      Jesus, howd you get in in the first place lol
      Feb 23
    • Airbnb NasirMack
      I had experience before and some experience in traditional company doing software before joining and did well in the interview. I have always been a hard worker and I know I needed to work very hard so I just pressed the pedal all the way down because that’s my best chance to get into sv it’s worth it so far. I knew I was able to do it just needed a bit more time. I also blamed a manager and a lead for their inexperience as they themselves are also incompetent in those positions so the whole thing did not go exactly as I had planned
      Feb 23
    • LinkedIn
      lcftw

      LinkedIn

      PRE
      Goldman Sachs
      lcftwmore
      Which company?
      Feb 23
  • StubHub Sabrina👻
    When I dated multiple people at one time .Was exhausting .Ghosted everyone to recover .
    Feb 232
    • Microsoft
      Happy Mats

      Microsoft

      PRE
      Apple
      Happy Matsmore
      Truth
      Feb 24
    • Zillow Group salad🥗
      Just gotta have good boundaries.
      Feb 24
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    • Morgan Stanley
      ggdjD17

      Morgan Stanley

      PRE
      Microsoft
      ggdjD17more
      Anyone can google old memes
      Feb 23
  • Amazon ldjsd62
    Worked at amazon?
    Feb 230
  • Google vqsx26
    I moved to Google. Much happier. TC is about double too
    Feb 232
    • Northrop Grumman / EngHowCouldYu
      What’s your title
      Feb 23
    • Facebook kelsi
      From where?
      Feb 24
  • New $to(k
    Oh... Alcoholics Anonymous on Blind. What a bunch of whiners.
    Feb 232
    • Airbnb NasirMack
      Have a glass and share yours my friend
      Feb 23
    • Zillow Group salad🥗
      THIS is toxic masculinity
      Feb 24
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    • Northrop Grumman / EngHowCouldYu
      Okay, good story, but, you prob made out with $$$$$$$$$$$ if you were before employee 7...
      Feb 24
  • Gartner praetor
    I spent three years dividing my time between cities on two continents, a 14 hour plane ride apart. Three weeks in each city on a trip, but one thing was constant: 60 hours a week was my baseline, and it only went up from there.

    After 3.years of that I had more than enough. Fortunately for me, one of my "Bucket list" jobs fell out of the sky and got me off that treadmill, but if it hadn't, I was probably six months tops from a mental breakdown or heart attack.
    Feb 230
  • Goldman Sachs not_Lloyd
    Worked for Deutsche Bank
    Feb 232
    • Oh, and now you’re better? Lol
      Feb 23
    • Microsoft / Salesrainsucks
      I think DB CRE group slaves and sponsors is for chilling!
      Feb 24
  • Amazon / EngFreeBees
    Joined a startup while at school. Worked days without sleep. Then joined a super aggressive company after school. Fell seriously ill. Realized that I did not want to kill myself and set ground rules for what I care about and how much time I would work for. Did another startup but this time was careful and respectful of my time and health. The startup did moderately well - way better than the one that I burned out at. Haven’t felt burnout in a decade now! Ok I feel a little proud of myself for having done that!
    Feb 260
  • TextNow JohnMcPop
    I worked at Amazon until last year and I'm still burnt
    Feb 240
  • New / Other
    Tzal02

    NewOther

    PRE
    Blue Cross Blue Shield
    Tzal02more
    I guess still recovering in the first year.
    Worked 5 years under chaotic management working long hours but it was a good excuse for being tired all the time so I can with it.
    Find out I have narcolepsy and got dropped like a hot iron. Didn't even have time to finish documenting or anything.
    No problem. I'll just get a job in like a month? Almost. They would have hired me as a remote w/o a hard schedule to work around med issues. Buuuut, they ran into issues at the same time. Poked around and found it wasn't an excuse, I just got damn unlucky.

    Since then I've just been doing what it takes, chasing contracts, calling about a year wait for unemployment, emptying savings, etc. Ride sharing while taking naps after each ride. Overnight for more cash. Still daytime responsibilities. Hard to fit in but try. Upset everyone.
    Then I ran over a screw and that tire is basically gone. So I'm screeeeewed hahahahahahahaha *plop*
    Feb 240
  • Cox Communications zoink99
    If you are being overworked, you can get a doctor's note to give you paid leave. I worked for a start up arm of a major company. Underresourced and had a slave driver, psychopath boss. Literally....he had every symptom. Couldn't take a day off, worked nights, weekends non stop, took on day off and my boss and greedy direct report stabbed me in the back the same week. She applied for my job originally. He left a note on my chair with 30 bs grievances. I snapped. Brain was shutdown in the morning. Couldn't fill out paperwork at Dr. office without bursting into tears. It was like my brain gridlocked. Couldnt drive a car, use the computer for about a month. Had to go back to work one month later. Good news is when you get PTSD, they can't hurt you anymore cause damage is done. Was emotionally numb for a year and survived until I could get laid off and get severance. He got promoted. I got back in under different group in company and eventually got promoted. Learned my lesson. Work life balance is critical. Been 5 years and I'm still not recovered. Brain doesn't work as well as it used to.
    Mar 32
    • Autodesk prexitonic
      This is really awful. I do hope you are taking care of yourself.
      Mar 4
    • Amazon Hhjg
      What kinda doctor did you see? I am seeing some symptoms with high pressure on my temples, emotionally messed up, had a panic attack last year...
      Mar 10
  • Intel draven
    Worked till 2 am in the mornings on weekends too. 70+ hours week, I thought I could prove my worth but it all went to shit. The design team took all the credit. I was in the validation team ( designing in validation) but 0 credits given. My boss didn’t know shit about what I worked on so he was of no help. All unrealistic deadlines.. like can you make a software by tomorrow? Wtf

    No raise, no rsu. Had to gtfo eventually. This was my old company
    Feb 241
    • Intel / Eng007agt
      It's similar to my experience. We might be in the same team ;)
      Feb 26
  • Honeywell ImHere3
    My burnout is still in progress.
    20+ years at an international company that decided to enforce an Agile strategy across all divisions. Finally in a position to make change in my department, and they RIP the rug from under me, telling me we have to take on more work from RIFd divisions, but cant grow the team, so I'm expected to make deadlines with no additional help. Lost one team member and I'm told I cant replace them locally, must hire outside of the country... and then when I do put in the request for hire, its dragged out almost a year. I'm doing my job plus the job of 2 other people, with no recognition and no compensation for me or my team. Its company wide and we've lost so many talented people. It's sad.
    Feb 242
    • CanFab / Eng⚡️⚡️⚡️
      Why do you bother staying?
      Feb 24
    • Honeywell ImHere3
      This is all I know. My education is minimal, though my experience is vast. Unfortunately, companies these days, companies want degrees. I've been looking. But it doesn't pan out.
      Feb 24
  • Amazon N0tSure
    Burnout is the norm at Amazon.

    Why do you think we say it’s Day1 everyday?

    It’s like saying every day is a Monday.
    Mar 80
  • Wrong team, wrong boss, idiots around the team was my burnout
    Feb 250
  • Amazon Gjdyveycc4
    Was in one of my previous company. Shitty org. Most of my co workers enjoyed the unlimited PTOs, we had a support team who were never able to work on issues. I had to work for dev, support, architecture, TPM, sdm, etc. in multiple projects within and outside org(due to niche skills). Got promoted very fast though but I still left on the day of my promotion to join next venture.
    Feb 250
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