How did you get burnout and how did you recover?
Mine: I founded and led a startup for years that ultimately ran out of cash. Instead of taking a break I jumped straight into a cross country move and a high pressure engineering management role in a new super fucked up organization that almost immediately started imploding: massive overwork, endless project cancellations, team reshuffling, etc. Did that for a year and I’m so burned out I can’t even get out of bed to go to work anymore. Planning to just resign.
How did you get burnout and how did you recover?
- Amazon poorrepmoreI was in consulting for many years and was working multiple clients at any given time. During one week, I remember clocking 85 hours and that went on for months. Then, they asked me start traveling, so I started traveling on Sundays, so I could make it to the client site by Monday. 2 years went by like this, with 1 day in the weekend. I went to the doctor and she said I’d gained weight, had high blood pressure and borderline cholesterol. I came home that day and sent an email to the partner saying that week would be my last week. Best decision I ever made! A month later, the partner got fired because of the burnout on the team. Moral of the story: don’t be an idiot and put yourself through that.
- Microsoft / Product BrazukamoreMy story is similar at Bain, had a terrible WLB, hated the micromanaging. Best thing that ever happened to me was them not sponsoring my MBA. I got a scholarship almost immediately, had 2 awesome years away from that mess and now have a cool job which I have great autonomy and impact while maintaining a fantastic lifestyle.Feb 24 5
- Amazon poorrepmore@sogone Helps everyone, trust me. Given our risk averse culture and how we are taught to have no gaps in our resume, I think the modern workforce needs to question those things and put themselves first. If you need the time, take it. Smart companies shouldn’t want a workforce that’s burnt out!
- Uber ShutdwnAn incompetent manager can cause burnout too. Not setting clear expectations, not supporting your growth, making chaotic decisions leaving you constantly running at the same spot wondering what he / she wants when they aren't really give a shit about you.
- I lost a couple of people from my family within two years and almost all my emotional support and plans about the future gone with their sudden deaths as well. I have been so lonely and lost my bonds with life since then and the recovery is too slow and painful. I thought that I was prepared for everything in life but it looks like I wasn't. The hardest thing is that no one gives a shit and they still expect you deliver stuff and be cheerful etc. I have a newborn now and things are getting better but still the life feels like lots of meaningless shit to me.
- Indeed / PR CDwY37Sorry you had to go through this. It’s a long painful process and sometimes nothing seems to work. It’s been almost two years since my traumatic experience and I still struggle day in day out. I lost my job because of it and am looking for a job while partially care taking for my parent who is recently diagnosed of cancer. It’s a dark tunnel, sometimes I just want to take a rest but I know I can’t. It will be different eventually, it just takes time I guess.
- Box wheatbran@osama I can relate to your situation. I lost some of my best fallback and support in the family in past five years. I have been feeling depressed for about two years now.
Occasionally I get triggered in wierd ways like I started crying when a feature which I was working on got assigned to another employee. I won't have ever imagined that I will be this sensitive to such trivial stuff.
I keep reminding myself that this is trivial and I should get over it.
On the plus side : I have never been able to relate to those people who get upset on small stuff or keep remembering years old deaths and grievances. After these episodes I feel more compassionate towards them. I wonder if all this experience is God's way of teaching me empathy towards the people whose behavior I haven't been able to logically understand.Feb 24 6
- Facebook Ux35jhI work at Facebook. Must say that it is the most stressful job I ever have.
- Facebook fooodyAlso a SWE at fb. Been here for 2.5 years and all I can say is that it HIGHLY depends on your team. My old team was a shit show regarding WLB. Everyone worked 60+ hours and weekends. My new team is super chill, I don’t work more than 35h/week with the same ratings. (Both teams in core app)
- I was tired of working my ass off for stupid ad tech so I quit my job to work on rockets and now I am even more burnt out lol
- I signed up for the pain in trade for a cool life experience and being able to contribute to something I like (progress in space exploration, not musk). I knew I would burn out eventually. But i'm half joking about burning out, so far I'm more or less OK. But it wasn't exactly a good career move..lol. More like career sacrifice, like spending a couple years in the Peace corps or somethingFeb 26 1
- Microsoft innocentTo burnout, you need to put the transmission into D, hold the footbrake down as firmly as possible, build up the revs of the car by pushing the throttle pedal.
- Microsoft Etxz24I work about 50-60 hours per week and I'm taking 21 credit hours this semester to try amd finish my undergrad.
Im a cloud architect. Kill me please.
- I kept on saying “this is fine, this is how it goes, just keep doing your best”. My mind was that puppy, standing in the burning room saying “this is fine”.
My body stopped working though. It got sick. Really sick. It just didn’t like what I was doing at all. It didn’t like any of it and would shut down randomly. They called it “panic”. I wasn’t panicking. I was fine. My body made me dizzy. My body made me feel like I was dying. My body made me scared that my time on earth was ending.
But my mind was just confused. What the hell is happening to me? My mind had the will, the drive, the desire. My body said stop.
So I stopped. 12 weeks medical leave. Tai chi, nature walks. Relaxation. I’ve been ok since. But it was bad. The worst part is, I would still be going if my body didn’t start going into fight or flight.
- I lost my job, and took an honest assessment of what I was doing. I realized I let recruiters source me to jobs I didn’t want even through they were well compensated. Then I would work round the clock at these jobs while being miserable because it was what I was “supposed” to do and I was “lucky” to have the opportunity. The next recruiting season I interviewed people as much as they interviewed me, turned down interviews for jobs I didn’t want, and focused 100% only on opportunities I had high interest in. I also didn’t let recruiters source me to jobs I didn’t want by making it clear what I wanted to interview for. I’m thankful it worked.
P.s I also stopped working for a full year to recenter myself during this time and focused on spending time with my family because I had neglected them for the past 3 years.
- Currently having a constant level of stress that is both specific and vague at the same time. All the work I do seems over complicated at every level and whenever I attempt to bring it up it gets brushed off as perfectly normal. This leads me to thinking that it’s just me that “doesn’t get it” which adds more stress. I try to study more and improve at my job, but the more I learn the more I am convinced that things at work are way more complicated than they need to be. Project roadmaps are way too strict, requirements for tasks are vague and almost never account for any possible errors. Business rules are defined but not really documented only passed along view meeting notes. So I am constantly asking why we are doing things this way, but everyone keeps saying that it’s a good process, so I basically feel stupid for not understanding, stressed out because of frustration, and stuck because I fear working here has quite literally made me worse at what I do so I am trapped.
- This makes sense. The idea of being elsewhere definitely makes sense. The problem for me is that I was never a low performer on my team. Quite the opposite. I just did all of that while being frustrated and feeling stupid. If I am being really honest, I didn’t really notice this stuff or the feeling of burnout at all. Not until I started dreading going into work or when I stopped asking questions or giving my opinion on things. I just did whatever work was put in front of me and left. After a little while it all sort of hit me like a brick to the head. It has been difficult to deal with as it has very seriously affected my confidence in my ability even though I can obviously see that my work has not suffered, but as it goes emotional damage does not really have to follow any logical rules, it just exists until you find a way to deal with it.
So I would definitely like to be elsewhere, but I’m not really in a good enough place to interview right now. I have tried and I have just completely frozen up when given problems that I am entirely capable of answering or walking through. I begin to second guess myself a lot and by the time I realize I have been silent for just long enough to make it awkward. This is what gave me a clue that I might be fighting with fatigue or burnout.Feb 26 3
- eBay vtaThe only remedy for burnout is step back. Working hard would not solve, step back don't mean quit.. care bit less about thing make you burnout, take a vacation and tune off, switch team. I never seen anyone burnout due to work load, it's shit loaded management and co-worker or no right accountability, which hardworking cannot solve. Once you recover from burnout you will have better view to handle your situation. Burnout is not productive for both health and work. Care for yourself first, Your CEO will not die if something happened to your product or project you are working, but your beloved may if something happened to you.Feb 26 1
- I have never been committed to a company enough to think much about what the ceo wants. Unless I have a direct incentive to put in more than reasonable amount of extra work it generally doesn’t go that way. I always value my life over work, that’s part of why the things I am experiencing now took me by surprise. It definitely sucks.
As for the interview process, I don’t mind it being difficult. It makes sense that it is. It just sucks to freeze up because of self doubt. That’s all on me.Feb 27 2
- Microsoft BlueScreenLeft MSFT for a startup after 10 years. That lasted several years, and was bought out by....MSFT! Wound up back here again ( at least I didn’t have to interview!!!!!). But that itch is back.
- We have great pay and great Work/Life balance. And we are hiring.
PM me and I will refer you.
- Google QCNY71I have had strep throat for two months, someone dude at work is trying to take credit for my work during perf, worked 10+ hour days the past two q's covering for someone on maternity leave and doing my full time job. I cant go on. #rantover
- I was very close to burnout some years ago. Worked 80+ hours, studied in parallel, had a shit relationship that time and worked even Sundays and Saturdays. So one day I didn’t feel anything...nothing could motivate me to work, not even the money.
I took 5 weeks off and recovered slowly over a year. But I had to learn to be focused on one single thing at a time. It was a really hard learning and bad time. Spent hours and hours in the woods and walked...walked...and walked...that helped me a lot.
However, even though it‘s been years ago it‘s still not completely fixed as things like money or cars (what i loved much) can‘t really motivate me. Things that have been fun are now somehow boring. But i‘m recovered and successful in my role. I spend 2-4 hours a day with work...and it seems to be enough. I put myself first...and still looking for the real reason why i‘m on this planet. One thing that I know for sure is that it‘s not because of a shitty job and helping others to get rich!
Take your time to recover!
- I got help from a physician and read a few inspiring books. From Tony Robbins to others. That helped me to realize that high expectations and perfectionism paired with loads of work lead to burnout. This time opened my eyes...while I felt burned out I started to realize that there are much more things which are worth to live. And guess what, it‘s not the job and the money! I felt that deeply for the very first time. Before, I was just thinking it‘s all about the money...and I need to chase it. What a mistake. Since then i‘m chasing my dreams and left money chasing behind...interesting is even though I don‘t really chase it i feel richer than before, and looking at my bank account gives me the same feeling. My advice: ask yourself what you wanna do and accomplish in your life apart of having a well paid job. I‘m still in the process but i‘m closer to the answer than ever before. And btw. It has nothing to do with the age I guess. I was around 30 when it happened.
- Zendesk bbtmtMy crypto side project took off at the same time I switched job. I had no choice but to make it a startup with registered company name. One of my pals from the side project went full time on it but I stayed with my old(new) company. The company's work is very balanced but as a new comer I had a lot of learnings to do. Other than that I spent all my free time supporting my pal on the startup and sometimes had to go to oversea conferences as well. Life was hell until the whole crypto space (kinda) died at the end of last year. A blessing in disguise.
- Oracle ora-911because of people like you working your ass off and screwing your life and of those around you these companies expect everone to be like you guys. just slow down and enjoy life. you are not going live till hundred and even if you do majority of that remaining life till 100 you will live like a vegetable. slow down and learn to say no to your companies to stop sucking your blood.