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When will BART be cleaner?

Airbnb rckC34
Dec 20, 2018

I’ve been traveling in Japan and S Korea and their transportation system is extremely organized and clean.
Are there any organizations that are actively working on this? If there is, i would like to get involved.

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  • Workday / Engefficient
    Nope, government ain’t got money for that. Japan and Korea‘s tax rate is also a lot higher than US so nothing really to complain about.
    Dec 20, 20186
    • Microsoft
      oi vey

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      oi veymore
      Korea has possibly the best healthcare system in the world and everything is clean and well functioning. You can see their taxes are well spent, unlike here where paying taxes feels like burning money.
      Dec 20, 2018
    • Snapchat mehmet
      Haha OK yea it's money
      Dec 20, 2018
    • Facebook / Eng.m.
      Korea has it's fair share of problems... Which is why I immigrated here
      Dec 20, 2018
    • Microsoft trthhhheee
      As a Korean, I completely disagree Korean healthcare system is even one of the best. It has easy access to doctors and cost is extremely cheap and you don’t need to worry about insurance. However, doctors are a lot worse. I mean, they are useless when it counts because they don’t worry about being sued (doctors win 99%), don’t care about patients history, don’t admit they can be wrong and think they know everything within 30 sec.

      That resulted: Obgyn let my friends baby got killed. My serious autoimmune disease went undiagnosed for 10 years despite seeing so many doctors. One doctor lied mine can be cured. My brother nearly died due to wrong prescription. He would have died if not my uncle (internal med doctor) who found it and stopped the med. My friends died in hospital for respiratory disease but no explanation. My grandmothers was having light illness but after they went through unnecessary procedure, she died a week later.

      I suspect there are large number of patients who died or obtained chronic illness because of malpractice but they don’t know that was due to misdiagnosis and mistreatments.

      Doctors who had been educated in US are much better at identifying the complex issues and being humble at diagnosis and going through everything properly. Bedside manner is another thing that is night and day as well.

      However, I would say it is still probably much better than China and India. It is just a law of economy. When a country becomes abundant, then it starts to care about health and wellbeing. Korea started improving significantly and it will get there someday but it is a long way to go.
      Dec 21, 2018
    • Airbnb rckC34
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      Damn that’s horrible to hear... sorry you went through that
      Dec 21, 2018
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      Korean healthcare system works well only if you get a cold or something like a minor issue.
      Dec 24, 2018
  • Amazon JSnowflake
    Japan and Korea have homogeneous populations. We have disenfranchised minorities and homeless people. QED.
    Dec 20, 20181
    • Workday / Engefficient
      There’s a lot of Chinese illegal immigrants in Japan, similar to Hispanic illegal immigrants in America
      Dec 20, 2018
  • HCL imgoat
    Let's be real. Public transportation in this country is worse that most of the "third world" countries out there.
    Dec 20, 20182
    • VMware BobbleHat
      Change some to most, please
      Dec 20, 2018
    • HCL imgoat
      Absolutely agree with you on there with you!
      Dec 21, 2018
  • New / EngiOSPerson
    This. Is. America.
    Dec 20, 20180
  • MuleSoft Damndaniel
    Murica!
    Dec 20, 20180
  • Goldman Sachs / Projecteee123;()
    No
    Dec 20, 20180
  • Airbnb rckC34
    OP
    It would enhance the quality of life for so many ppl... sigh
    Dec 20, 20183
    • Workday / Engefficient
      Unfortunately the vast majority of those people don’t want to pay more for this
      Dec 20, 2018
    • Microsoft
      oi vey

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      oi veymore
      Unless we have security and cleaning staff every 20 feet, the homeless person peeing and screaming will still be a problem, no matter how much we pay in taxes.
      Dec 20, 2018
    • Microsoft / Engbabaisyou
      It’s also a cultural thing. The BART was once clean, when it was built. It’s dirty and dangerous because of the people who use it. There’s rarely any trash cans in Japan but you don’t see trash everywhere.
      Dec 20, 2018
  • New tagged
    When there’s money to hire cleaners. Bart is already expensive as is so not going to happen any time soon
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    • VMware BobbleHat
      Some Bart janitors make more than my base.
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  • VMware BobbleHat
    Move Bart away from Bay Area and it will automatically be much cleaner. For some reason this is a real shithole.
    Dec 20, 20180
  • Apple fu manchu
    There will be moderate efforts but it won’t be substantially cleaner than it is today.
    Dec 20, 20180
  • Microsoft
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    oi veymore
    Those are different cultures--ones that can ban drugs without exasperating their drug epidemic and ones that can pay out social welfare without enabling welfare queens. America's culture forbids having nice things like eradicated homelessness and subsequent clean public transit.
    Dec 20, 20180
  • Microsoft / Engbabaisyou
    No, Americans love driving their cars. If it is going to happen, it would have happened already. Maybe Elon’s underground tunnel will change things, meh.
    Dec 20, 20180
  • Google L7@AWS
    They need to pay their janitors at least 400k...then it will be clean
    Dec 20, 20180

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