Which SWE offer to pick?

Microsoft jihtdj
Oct 2 21 Comments

Apple
Base : 170k
Stock : 300k over 4 years
Sign on : 65k (first year) + 30k (second year)
Bonus : 10 -15%
Refreshers : 75k over 4 years (not guaranteed)
Relocation : Standard package
Location : Cupertino

Salesforce (Tableau)
Base : 155k
Stock : 250k over 4 years
Sign on : 50k (first year)
Bonus : 10%
Refreshers : Not sure about range (not guaranteed)
Relocation : None (I am in Seattle area)
Location : Seattle

YOE : 2

I put both these numbers of paycheck calculator and it looks like net pay is more for Salesforce. However, I feel Apple has better growth opportunities in terms of compensation and career.

I am also not sure if I want to relocate as I like Seattle's weather and have a lot of good friends in this area. This is the main deciding factor for me. I am not concerned about compensation much.

What would you pick if you were me?

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TOP 21 Comments
  • Databricks / Data
    data4u

    Databricks Data

    PRE
    500 Startups
    data4umore
    FML
    Oct 2 2
    • Facebook Instаgram
      Federated Machine Learning?
      Oct 2
    • Facebook / Eng mturtle
      Fuck my life.

      I'm assuming he makes much less then these offers.
      Oct 2
  • Facebook / Eng mturtle
    Apple, it's a much safer bet then Tableau.

    At Tableau you will be working on a legacy product that is losing market share; that work always sucks.
    Oct 2 3
    • NVIDIA tbonne
      Says the company that everyone believes in.
      Oct 2
    • Facebook / Eng mturtle
      Facebook being a shitty company doesn't make Tableau better.
      Oct 2
    • NVIDIA tbonne
      Touche.
      Oct 2
  • Tableau MachineAI
    Apple, the the engineers at Tableau are subpar at best
    Oct 2 0
  • NVIDIA tbonne
    Definitely Salesforce/Tableau and especially in the Seattle area.

    No state tax, highways are good, no crazy other taxes and still affordable real estate in greater Seattle area.
    Oct 2 0
  • Apple 🍿2020
    What is this “second year” sign on? Never seen it before.
    Oct 2 3
    • Amazon / Eng hLMA52
      Amazon does that as well. It’s a retention tactic
      Oct 2
    • Apple 🍿2020
      Meaning I’ve never seen it before at Apple.
      Oct 2
    • Apple / Eng bugasuga
      Me neither call bs.”?
      Nov 19
  • Amazon real bezos
    Those numbers with 2 YoE? Beating 300k TC. Damn!
    Oct 2 0
  • Bloomberg GOOGLE<GO>
    @OP what kind of developer are you, out of curiosity?

    Backend services? Full stack? Front end? Data engineer? ML engineer? DevOps? iOS? Android?
    Oct 3 0
  • Amazon tinkbig
    That’s a strong SDE offer at Tableau for only 2 YOE!
    Oct 3 0
  • Cisco redfinn
    Which team in Apple
    Oct 2 0
  • Bloomberg GOOGLE<GO>
    What type of SWE are you?

    My recommendation is to weigh all of the factors including the location and work you'll be doing, and decide where you'd rather go to work every day.
    Oct 2 0
  • Apple arialae
    Keep looking. You can get into better companies.
    Oct 2 0
  • Visa kingyolo
    Try negotiating with Tablueau if you wanna take it
    Oct 2 0
  • Riverbed Technology dagdaubab
    Great offers, congrats!
    Oct 2 0

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