Which company is better for product: Facebook or Google? 🤔

Amazon deeeeee
May 8, 2018 25 Comments

Assuming all else is equal, i.e. good manager, like your team, interesting product etc.

Facebook positive differentiators:
-astronomical DAU/MAU, so much reach
-move quickly and launch fast, lots of opportunities to ship product
-fun hacker culture, strong experimentation frameworks
-strong vision
-nicer offices

Facebook negative differentiators:
-poor privacy record
-less varied customer types, mostly consumer + advertisers
-worse work life balance
-no direct ownership, not embedded in eng org
-questionable long term relevance

Google positive differentiators:
-prestige unmatched for PM, known for difficult interview and high bar
-better work life balance
-leader of eng team, direct ownership and influence
-insane moats in multiple businesses

Google negative differentiators:
-bureaucratic
-boring — smart people doing menial tasks
-slow moving, lack of innovation
-lack of vision, many recent high-profile failures with horrifically bad product work
-Seattle office in poor location (Kirkland lol)

Positives for both:
-relevance to average person on street
-global reach
-excellent pay
-excellent benefits
-high prestige

Negatives for both:
-spend your life getting people to look at/click ads more
-Undiversified revenue streams

How do you see it?

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TOP 25 Comments
  • Google impost3r
    Another downside of fb: It doesn't matter what project you'll work on, you'll be ultimately working on social network stuff, there's no escape. At Google we have a much more diverse set of things to work on.
    May 8, 2018 12
    • Daimler crying
      Lol at Facebook being more profitable... :')
      May 9, 2018
    • Google / Product callofwild
      In all seriousness, what does FB build that isn't related to whatsapp, FB app/site, Instagram?
      May 9, 2018
    • Google mement0
      Even Oculus has a strong social motivation behind it.
      May 9, 2018
    • Facebook cynical.ly
      Agree Google has more innovative projects compared to FB, with WayMo etc. But Oculus, Acquila, Open Compute are innovative too.
      May 9, 2018
    • Facebook / Product
      oooooops

      Facebook Product

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      oooooopsmore
      Innovation is over rated, what matters is TC, perks and growth opportunities; FB tops on all those fronts
      May 9, 2018
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    • New / Eng
      Diggler$$$

      New Eng

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      Diggler$$$more
      Both companies have a bad reputation for PMs. We have interviewed and passed on every one. Google is somewhat worse where PMs have no authority and eng call the shots.

      Amazon has a good rep for PMs among the big companies. But generally smaller, faster growing companies are the place to be.
      May 8, 2018
    • Jet vYjS51
      Google is an engineering company. PMs are note takers. It’s a joke to me it’s so prestigious. It shows you how much people misunderstand what PMs do.
      May 8, 2018
  • Amazon Moving?
    Neither? Go to a company that actually releases successful products. Google lost innovation many years ago and Facebook has a poor product track record.
    Working at either place will get you the stink of FAANG which can help job hunting later but if you have a proven track record of successful products that will serve you better.
    May 8, 2018 0
  • Google Facebook
    😳
    Kirkland (98033) is one of the most prestigious locations on the Eastside :)
    May 8, 2018 3
    • Amazon deeeeee
      OP
      Very unattractive location if you want to live in the city.
      May 8, 2018
    • Google Facebook
      If you like cities why not move to NYC?
      May 8, 2018
    • Amazon deeeeee
      OP
      Already lived there and loved it but high cost of living, high taxes, no access to great outdoors, high strung. Trying to get a little different mix here for a while. Kirkland is too sleepy and boring whereas Seattle offers a decent city middle ground and the other perks I mentioned.
      May 8, 2018
  • Amazon kindles
    Both places have close to zero responsibility and accountability with PMs, and are largely engineering driven. You end up being a glorified CX designer at best, or a project manager at worst. Amongst FANG, Amazon has the highest reputation for PMs and the product management process (read up on the working backwards process). There's other things to consider when joining Amazon though (WLB, etc).
    May 8, 2018 1
    • Google / Product callofwild
      "Glorified CX designer at best" -- chip on your shoulder?
      May 9, 2018
  • Facebook / Product
    oooooops

    Facebook Product

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    oooooopsmore
    Facebook hands down, Google is far more eng driven. Both are great companies can’t go wrong

    Source: Spent 5 years at the big G
    May 8, 2018 0
  • Daimler crying
    Correction* facebook no longer as prestigious/relevant to the average person following the data scandal
    May 8, 2018 0
  • Microsoft Sct909
    Great breakdown, and I agree with it 100%. I don’t think either is better or worse - they’re both the top 2, it’s more just which one you prefer (if you have the luxury of choosing between them). Facebook’s main motto is to ship fast, fail fast which highly values scrappiness. Google’s main motto is to think big and vastly differentiate which highly values out of the box thinkers.

    Do you have offers from both for PM? What level are you?
    May 8, 2018 0