Which roles typically get laid off in a recession?
Sales, marketing, engineering, crapshoot? I know back in 08 adobe laid off ~15% of their workforce. Trying to figure out my odds his time around.
Core product, infra, relatively safe. R&d, not so much. Satellite offices are usually targeted unless they're vital. This is for engineering. Marketing and other fluff is usually gone.
Engineers get axed all over the place. Even in core type maintenance roles you don't need half the people if the rate of new development is reduced.
Not if you do the needful lol
Dang man so true it hurts
All of the above
Good companies lay off the people they were probably going to get rid of anyway. Other companies are forced into other choices. Drive value and prove it at a good company and you’re probably ok.
PMs for sure
I know this is small sample size, but I’m a PM and have never been laid off during a recession and I’ve been through a few. I haven’t seen anyone other than people who had it coming get laid off during a recession, including the PM role. Maybe I’m just on borrowed time and the next one will get me? We’ll see.
Nah not really, if the ratio of pm to engineer is fairly low there is no reason to axe too many. You can scale a pm out by throwing a dozen projects at them while the same cannot be said for devs.
Operations tends to get really lean toward the beginning, just look at the recent stuff at Verizon but you can only cut it soo much where as Marketing and R&D you can just cancel the whole thing.
Many companies will calculate a % reduction in headcount and then forward that to the line managers so it tends to get spread pretty evenly.
Hr
The funniest thing I get from this is that engineers feel so elevated that they do not realise they are the primary producers in their organisation. If output is decreased why would the primary producers not be decreased in sync? How is it different to any other factory floor?
Engineers are the primary producers of AWS at least. But my statement has nothing to do with Amazon specifically.
Recruiters
Lol
No joke. Back in 08 in Microsoft, recruiters were the first to get the boot.