Which roles typically get laid off in a recession?

Marketo cWjw61
Dec 21, 2018 39 Comments

Sales, marketing, engineering, crapshoot?

I know back in 08 adobe laid off ~15% of their workforce.

Trying to figure out my odds his time around.

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  • Google / Eng
    prodaccess

    Google Eng

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    Top Contributor or GTFO
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    Recruiters
    Dec 21, 2018 7
    • Oath
      Yahoo❗

      Oath

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      Lol
      Dec 21, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng McLane
      No joke. Back in 08 in Microsoft, recruiters were the first to get the boot.
      Dec 21, 2018
    • Oath
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      Oath

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      Everyone or just the vendors/ contractors?
      Dec 21, 2018
    • Amazon xOyY62
      Good riddance
      Dec 21, 2018
    • Oracle savejob
      @pbkk88 maybe you will get reply of “YOU SUCK”. What is wrong with politically correct reply? If they give you correct reply saying xyz interviewer didn’t like you - you are going to just sue them for racial/gender/some other bias. Start respecting process and others
      Dec 21, 2018
    • New TYjc83
      Maybe you wouldn’t need any recruiters if most of the engineers weren’t semi autistic
      Dec 21, 2018
    • Oracle savejob
      Stop hating man. It is Christmas!! Hope it bring some peace and empathy to you. They don’t wish for you (engineers?) to get fired or get a rude reply. You are going out of your way in wishing bad things.
      Dec 21, 2018
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    • Glassdoor tyho58
      Not if you do the needful lol
      Dec 21, 2018
    • New sfUN21
      Dang man so true it hurts
      Dec 21, 2018
    • Synopsys iLikePussy
      Do such team exist? I thought every team is lead by Indians in Bay area
      Dec 21, 2018
    • Amazon URLiar
      What? Indians are fair people
      Dec 21, 2018
    • Vertivco / Eng
      FastPapuan

      Vertivco Eng

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      I rarely see people of my ethnicity, so I, if I get it, I will probably be put out fast.
      Dec 21, 2018
    • Washington Post oTtY52
      oh no
      Dec 21, 2018
  • Airbnb
    jim.hodlen

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    kindly doing the needful
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    I read it as which roles typically get laid in a recession🤦‍♂️
    Dec 21, 2018 0
  • Microsoft / Eng McLane
    Core product, infra, relatively safe. R&d, not so much. Satellite offices are usually targeted unless they're vital. This is for engineering. Marketing and other fluff is usually gone.
    Dec 21, 2018 1
    • Engineers get axed all over the place. Even in core type maintenance roles you don't need half the people if the rate of new development is reduced.
      Dec 21, 2018
  • Google YTBs33
    Lol look at all these engineers who think they are the only key producers of value. Most of you are migration monkeys and have minimal impact on company bottom line. The people that are secure are people that work on processes and code that directly generate $$
    Dec 21, 2018 1
  • eBay NotAmazon
    Sales, marketing, HR, PM, anyone who isn’t critical to keep the company afloat
    Dec 21, 2018 2
    • Verizon vzguy
      Never sales.
      Dec 22, 2018
    • eBay NotAmazon
      Of course they do, they get rid of anyone who isn’t a top performer, and make the people who are left pick up the other accounts. I’ve seen it happen over and over at different companies
      Dec 22, 2018
  • SAP kbron
    When ppl is layoff, the remaining ppl needs to do the job, so been safe is not the best thing. Also moral is really down so even if you stay things feel shitty
    Dec 21, 2018 1
    • Yeah in hindsight I wish I was made redundant in 08. It was just a shitty bunch of years from then on playing catch-up for lack of staff.
      Dec 21, 2018
  • Facebook / Eng Dbje64hhx
    PMs for sure
    Dec 21, 2018 2
    • Sirius XM HfIbQ65
      I know this is small sample size, but I’m a PM and have never been laid off during a recession and I’ve been through a few. I haven’t seen anyone other than people who had it coming get laid off during a recession, including the PM role. Maybe I’m just on borrowed time and the next one will get me? We’ll see.
      Dec 21, 2018
    • Nah not really, if the ratio of pm to engineer is fairly low there is no reason to axe too many. You can scale a pm out by throwing a dozen projects at them while the same cannot be said for devs.
      Dec 21, 2018
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    • Critical also gets laid off. Managers often have no idea who is critical plus they prefer to lay off higher wage individuals and do a shuffle of responsibilities.
      Dec 21, 2018
  • The funniest thing I get from this is that engineers feel so elevated that they do not realise they are the primary producers in their organisation.

    If output is decreased why would the primary producers not be decreased in sync?

    How is it different to any other factory floor?
    Dec 21, 2018 1
    • Engineers are the primary producers of AWS at least. But my statement has nothing to do with Amazon specifically.
      Dec 21, 2018
  • MVP Capital / Finance
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    Dec 21, 2018 0
  • US citizens are first to go in an H1B company.
    Rank or importance to the company has little effect.
    US citizens are expensive and if you lay them off you can hire them back in 18 months. When an H-1B is gone he's gone forever.

    My friend from China got shown the door during the last recession. Why? Because he had just completed his green card. The other 18 H1Bs in his department were kept on. Management has hired him back as a principal engineer after the recession was over.
    Dec 21, 2018 0
  • Facebook public2
    All of the above
    Dec 21, 2018 0
  • Salesforce DWMa5ee
    Will Google Brain people get laid off in the recession? They have hundreds of non-PhDs writing papers. That seems like a target.
    Feb 20 0
  • Wish Hdylop
    Recruiters, growth marketing team
    Dec 22, 2018 0
  • Amazon WicH21
    Hr
    Dec 21, 2018 0
  • Many companies will calculate a % reduction in headcount and then forward that to the line managers so it tends to get spread pretty evenly.
    Dec 21, 2018 0
  • Tableau Pete@Nerv
    Operations tends to get really lean toward the beginning, just look at the recent stuff at Verizon but you can only cut it soo much where as Marketing and R&D you can just cancel the whole thing.
    Dec 21, 2018 0
  • Sirius XM HfIbQ65
    Good companies lay off the people they were probably going to get rid of anyway. Other companies are forced into other choices. Drive value and prove it at a good company and you’re probably ok.
    Dec 21, 2018 0