White police officers are not more likely to fatally shoot minorities compared to black or Hispanic officers

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Jul 23 52 Comments

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  • Walmart / Eng QTFP86
    Shhhhhhh 🤫, such news can disturb the social(ist) fabric
    Jul 23 1
    • Squarespace ucsd4
      Someone didn't read the study...
      Jul 23
  • Lyft done2
    OP
    “The best predictor of the race of a person fatally shot was the amount of violent crime committed by members of that racial group. This suggests that reducing fatal shootings of racial minorities by police will require policymakers, civic leaders and ordinary citizens to address factors that lead to racial differences in violent crime, such as racial disparities in wealth, employment, education and family structure.”
    Jul 23 19
    • Intel cjeiwoa
      Don’t go shooting up a baseball field of Republican Congresspeople
      Jul 24
    • Credit Karma EllisDee25
      Yeah, so do you see how absurd your statement is yet?

      “Go tell white people to stop killing themselves and their families since they have the highest murder-suicide rate.”

      Things don’t work that way. It’s paternalistic victim-blaming that makes it seem like you irrationally resent black people.
      Jul 24
    • Intel cjeiwoa
      Is your issue in addressing the problem or the way it is messaged? Black on black crime is a giant fucking problem, probably the largest societal issue we have today in America. Also, do you realize how absurd it is to think cops disproportionately target black people as a race when the data suggests otherwise? (The OP)
      Jul 24
    • Credit Karma EllisDee25
      ”Also, do you realize how absurd it is to think cops disproportionately target black people as a race when the data suggests otherwise? (The OP)”

      The OP article says that white cops aren’t as likely as non-white cops to attack black people. What are you talking about.

      My issue with your line:

      A) skin color doesn’t make you responsible for what someone of the same background does. Just because I’m white trash, it doesn’t mean all white people like drunkenly setting off fireworks and huffing poppers whilst listening to that 4 Non Blondes song “What’s Going On?”

      B) You don’t think low income black or Latino (or white, where I grew up) people know that there’s violence? There’s a million and one useless church groups and NGOs and whatnot that are dedicated to “stopping the violence”. If you happen to ride the bus through low income neighborhoods, you might notice kids wearing shirts with photos of a classmate on it - it’s a dead classmate.

      So it’s a dumbass thing to tell people: “er, um have you tried not getting killed or telling the people killing you not to do it? Herfe-urm?”

      C) Social problems can’t just be wished away. The root cause of interpersonal violence in society is not that some dweeb from a corporation has or hasn’t told people not to kill.
      Jul 24
    • Intel cjeiwoa
      You just gave great examples for why there should be nothing in the law that discriminates based on group affiliation such as race (Affirmative Action being the most noteworthy), and we should be judged as individuals equally under the law. I’m on board.
      Jul 24
  • Google eK8vhD
    I'm guessing what actually works is de-escalation training for the officers and bodycams to keep everyone involved honest.
    Jul 23 4
    • Walmart / Eng QTFP86
      how to de-escalate Highly dosed person equipped with weapon?
      Jul 23
    • Google eK8vhD
      Offer them downers duh
      Jul 23
    • Microsoft hkbest
      Use taser or pepper spray instead of gun
      Jul 23
    • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
      No. Just take them down. World will be a better place.
      Jul 23
  • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
    Laws are racists. Cops too.
    Jul 23 1
    • Lyft done2
      OP
      War is peace, ignorance is strength
      Jul 23
  • Credit Karma EllisDee25
    Policing policy and practice is racist, it’s not the ripeness or rottenness of the individual apples.
    Jul 24 21
    • Credit Karma EllisDee25
      The courts did the redefinition, in effect narrowing racism to overt bigotry. If that is how systematic racism is understood then all but “whites only” aspects of Jim Crow would not have ended. There were no documents stating any intent to make black schools substandard to white schools. That has to be proven in terms of effects, not overt bigoted statements of individuals involved.

      Police officers and administrators don’t need to be racist themselves for the whole set up to lead to separate and unequal treatment.

      Racism doesn’t emerge from individual bigotry, it comes from the structures in the way society functions - often the courts. That goes for black slaves or Irish under British rule or Algerians under French rule, China under Japanese rule etc.
      Jul 24
    • Lyft done2
      OP
      I would disagree that they were narrowing it versus strengthening the existing natural definition.
      Jul 24
    • Credit Karma EllisDee25
      Did the civil rights movement go around protesting random individual white bigots to end Jim Crow... or did they protest the structures and politics that created what they saw as racism?
      Jul 24
    • Lyft done2
      OP
      They were protesting the structural racist policies. Not what you term racist effects
      Jul 24
    • Credit Karma EllisDee25
      But schools were “separate but equal”... by your criteria, what made them say that this policy was racist if no one said that black schools are intended to be inferior?
      Jul 24
  • Amazon kali maa
    This is a very limited set of data they are using. A subset of shootings from one year? What about all the people that got shot before or after 2015?
    Jul 23 0

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