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Jul 10 101 Comments

Is white pride racist? Why or why not?

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  • Facebook n00bish
    Any kind of pride based on something that is defined by a section of people is racist (especially if that section oppressed other sections for a long time)

    In fact I’ll go further and say, any pride based off of anything that’s not directly a consequence of your actions is a bad thing. #preach
    Jul 10 8
    • Lyft done2
      Then our society is full of racist traditions. Thank you for your moral purity
      Jul 10
    • Clover Health sses
      By your logic, there can only be pride in race if any kind of pride is racist.

      Honestly, I wouldn’t go any further.
      Jul 10
    • Lyft done2
      That’s nice and all, but you could use Signal your virtual just a little bit more?
      Jul 10
    • Clover Health sses
      You’d have to know about me to box me into that misnomer.
      Jul 10
    • What's wrong with lion pride?
      Jul 12
  • Microsoft baito
    Being proud of your immutable characteristics is just plain dumb
    Jul 10 17
    • Cisco 7ssuucckks
      @Mws.... That dude resonates my opinions
      @Google... Nah, just gonna google his opionions
      Why do you quote somebody else? Share your opinions!!!!
      Jul 10
    • Lyft done2
      It’s just a feeling guys, reasoning will let you down on this issue. Live and let live. Practice what you preach regarding tolerance.
      Jul 10
    • Google toNYorNot?
      @cisco: Why? Is reading not a part of your culture?
      Jul 10
    • Lyft done2
      We’re talking about pride, it’s an emotion after all. This is the realm of the unconscious self. That’s what I mean.
      Jul 10
    • Cisco 7ssuucckks
      @Google: Frederick BS will answer those questions in his podcast. Check that out!
      Jul 10
  • LinkedIn cd-
    Yes, because pride is based on shared culture. White, as a race, does not have a culture. You can, however, say German pride, Irish pride, English pride. These are based on specific culture, and therefore are not racist.
    Jul 10 7
    • LinkedIn cd-
      ☝️That would be American pride.
      Jul 10
    • Amazon Coatl
      Black pride celebrates U.S. black culture which is distinct from any African culture or even other American black cultures like black Caribbeans or black Brazilians, and is also different from other U.S. cultures.

      Why blacks have a distinct culture and whites don’t? Because blacks were removed from their heritage via slavery. Pretty much all whites can tell you if they’re Scotts or Irish, no slave descendant can tell you what is their real heritage.
      Jul 10
    • Indeed / Mgmt Ryry
      Massive racist considers "Black" people a monoculture. Typical leftist.
      Jul 10
    • Amazon HPv4yl
      White pride is celebrated on St Patricks Day in the US; even for white people who aren’t Irish. I think it would scare a lot of people if a “German Pride” came marching down the streets lol.
      Jul 10
    • LinkedIn cd-
      German pride is celebrated on Oktoberfest. Mexican pride is celebrated on Cinco de Mayo. French (?) pride is celebrated on Mardi Gras.

      Americans just like to take any opportunity to party. 🤷‍♂️
      Jul 11
  • F5 Networks RRA
    It's no more racist than Asian pride, Hindu nationalism, etc.
    Jul 10 0
  • New / Finance fObo28
    I don't think so, and I'm not white. I think if you're proud of you're heritage, theres nothing wrong with that as long as that pride doesn't turn to something else that harms people.

    Is Black pride racist? Is being proud of who you are or where you're from racist? It's not racist unless you're taking that pride and making it into a superiority thing.

    I'm Hispanic, and proud of it. Am I racist? No.
    Jul 10 1
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  • Indeed egobruiser
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    Jul 10 0
  • Lyft done2
    Is black pride racist, I would say no, what can you infer from that?
    Jul 10 13
    • Indeed egobruiser
      Ooo... he called you a talking monkey! 🙈🙉🙊
      Jul 10
    • LinkedIn cd-
      Racism is discrimination or supremacy based on race. English, however, can make it confusing as the same word can refer to both the race and people from specific continent.
      Jul 10
    • CentralReach
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      So why is being proud racist?
      Jul 10
    • LinkedIn cd-
      Proud is supremacy
      Jul 11
    • Lyft done2
      Pride is a simple emotion.
      Jul 11
  • Facebook Sffffft
    When “white pride” turns into white supremacy, which is often with people who use that term, it’s racist and toxic. The problem with a lot of “white pride” groups is they think that white people are superior to others (ie racism) and they carry out hateful actions based on that tenant. But simply being proud of yourself isn’t inherently bad (ditto to “Mexican pride” “LGBT pride” “Black pride” etc). No one has a problem with Irish people celebrating Saint Patrick’s Day, for instance, and being proud to be Irish. Different groups of white people celebrate themselves culturally all the time. That’s fine. However, the KKK and NeoNazi brand of “white pride” is obviously problematic as that brand is based on hate and domestic terrorism.
    Jul 11 5
    • Lyft done2
      I don’t know, that sounds like a bit of a strawman like that’s all in your head
      Jul 11
    • Facebook Sffffft
      Except it’s not, done2. People like you just 1. have your head in the sand 2. have never interacted with toxic groups like this so you think they don’t exist or 3. are part of a toxic group. I used to live in KKK country, which is still alive and well in the US by the way, so I’ve definitely seen racists who are white and say they’re “preserving heritage” and are proud of themselves for doing so not matter how vile their actions are in the process. Those people are problematic. White people who are just proud of their cultural backgrounds but don’t put people down or show violence to people in the process, aren’t. Both exist. But to OP’s question only one type is racist. #NotAllWhitePride #ButSOMEWhitePride
      Jul 11
    • Lyft done2
      No one was talking about hate groups dude you brought that to the table. I’m not surprised it’s common for people like you to fester on hate
      Jul 11
    • Facebook Sffffft
      Its impossible to talk about “white pride” without talking about hate groups, unfortunately because that’s what a lot of white hate groups are built on. I don’t fester in hate I just know how to have a nuanced conversation about the question that was asked.
      Jul 11
    • Lyft done2
      ‘Impossible ‘ ok...

      Pride is just s feeling my friend
      Jul 11
  • Envestnet jahfineh
    When a marginalized group asserts pride in themselves it is a direct response to that marginalization.

    Think "There's nothing wrong with being _____, in fact I'm proud of it!"

    Tell me what marginalization white people experience in countries where they are the majority by a large degree?
    Jul 10 6
    • Envestnet jahfineh
      White is not a heritage
      Jul 10
    • New / Finance fObo28
      Neither is black, but Black Pride is a thing
      Jul 10
    • Envestnet jahfineh
      Go look up black pride it's literally what I said.
      Jul 10
    • New / Finance fObo28
      I read that and that may have been how it originated, but that's not what it is today. People can be proud of being black or white or brown or yellow. That doesnt make them racist. It makes them proud of who they are. Nothing wrong with that unless you take that pride and make it into "I'm better because I'm black/brown/white". That's the difference
      Jul 10
    • Facebook wertyq123
      Agree. This is how pride is being used, similarly with gay pride or any other group that has been historically discriminated or oppressed to demonstrate that is not something wrong with it and as symbol of protest. Being used outside this context tends to demonstrate supremacy and should not be used.
      Jul 11
  • Indeed egobruiser
    I need someone to define racist for the 10+ people in the back.

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    Jul 10 0
  • Lyft done2
    Well Caucasians are a minority globally, so it’s obviously hypocritical to condone any other ethnic pride while denying Caucasian equivalents. Again we’re just talking about a feeling focusing our attention on it Is probably wrong
    Jul 10 4
    • Google / Eng L A R R Y
      "White" isn't an ethnicity. Irish and German and Finnish are ethnicities.

      The reason why Black people in the US can have Black Pride withoutbit beingr racist is because they largely don't know their ancestries due to the history of slavery.

      Context matters.
      Jul 12
    • Lyft done2
      That’s your opinion which happens to be rather intolerant. Even racist
      Jul 12
    • Google / Eng L A R R Y
      Which part do you disagree with?

      There's no land on earth, and never has been, where if someone asked their nationality they'd say "white".
      Jul 12
    • Lyft done2
      You’re arguing with yourself and your strawman friend dude it is funny to watch
      Jul 12
  • Amazon CurryYy
    You can’t do it because you are white.
    Jul 10 2
    • CentralReach
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      ?
      Jul 10
    • Amazon CurryYy
      No pride; that’s discrimination
      Jul 10
  • Microsoft MSFTBRO
    It is not, but many white people confuse white pride with white supremacy.

    So... the nuance is lost with pretty much everyone thanks to the white supremecist fuck heads.

    And it really only works with the down trodden people.
    Jul 10 0
  • Meetup q73smt
    When I was a kid, after Mother’s Day and Father’s day came and went, I asked my parents why there was no Children’s Day. They just laughed and said “it’s because every day is Children’s Day”.
    Jul 10 4
    • CentralReach
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      OP
      So are you saying it is or isn't?
      Jul 10
    • Meetup q73smt
      I’m saying that when you’re the dominant culture, seeking out special celebrations of your culture on top of being dominant is kind of a tone deaf move.

      It’s not framed as “white pride” because it doesn’t need to be. We’re swimming in white culture all day every day. Black history month started because at the time, the average person would have thought that no black people had ever done anything worth remembering. It needed a special callout.

      So there’s nothing wrong necessarily with “white pride”, but to really promote it as a concept is kind of oblivious to the larger picture.
      Jul 13
    • CentralReach
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      OP
      Thats your perception.
      Jul 13
    • Meetup q73smt
      I’m glad we could share perceptions
      Jul 13
  • New / Product XVrn30
    White pride is just the response to other ethinic pride movements. It can be racist but not necessarily so. Just like other ethinic movements.
    Jul 10 3
    • CentralReach
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      OP
      Why is white pride in response to other pride movements?
      Jul 10
    • Google toNYorNot?
      What sort of response are you trying to convey? Can you explain more?
      Jul 10
    • New / Product XVrn30
      Because what one group of people does or claims affects what others does or claims. The closer any ethnic group pulls together the more the groups around them will pull together in the same way. Standard sociology. Not necessarily logical.
      Jul 10
  • CentralReach
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    OP
    This was a trick question, and no context was provided. For a bunch of smart people, you have a lot of learning to do. It is so important to clarify context. The word pride does not mean racism. To have pride in something is good. We should all love ourselves for who we are. The purpose of this post was to display the lack of understanding many have for the word racism. Pride is powerful, and it certainly isn't hatred.
    Jul 10 1
  • New / R&D qagR71
    The concept of it isn't racist but the majority of people that drive the idea are.
    Jul 10 1
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      Can you back this claim up with data?
      Jul 10
  • I'm Fine with Chinese people having Chinese pride.
    I'm Fine with Indian people having Indian pride.
    .... Filipino pride
    ... Mexican prid...
    ... Etc.. Etc..

    So why the hell would I not extend this prerogative to myself?
    I DO extend it to myself.
    I have a certain degree of pride in my Northern European heritage.
    Aug 12 0
  • Cisco 7ssuucckks
    Well, what's to be proud for lacking something? Melanin, I meant! Same goes for having it too
    Jul 10 0
  • Google toNYorNot?
    Depends upon how you define "white pride'. Black pride is defined as a movement against White ideologies and standards that black people have to face. For ex: straight hair is beautiful, curly hair is not etc. It's a movement against centuries of blacks being told they are less than humans. The slaves that were brought to US were stripped of their names and surnames and given surnames of their masters, thus erasing their history. Black pride is a movement against that.

    Note that all the pride movements as defined has to be in response to something.

    How is White pride defined? What is it defined against?
    Jul 10 1
    • Lyft done2
      It’s a feeling, nothing more nothing less. If you’re actually tolerant it shouldn’t bother you in the slightest.
      Jul 10