Yes, because pride is based on shared culture. White, as a race, does not have a culture. You can, however, say German pride, Irish pride, English pride. These are based on specific culture, and therefore are not racist.
Black pride celebrates U.S. black culture which is distinct from any African culture or even other American black cultures like black Caribbeans or black Brazilians, and is also different from other U.S. cultures.
Why blacks have a distinct culture and whites don’t? Because blacks were removed from their heritage via slavery. Pretty much all whites can tell you if they’re Scotts or Irish, no slave descendant can tell you what is their real heritage.
When “white pride” turns into white supremacy, which is often with people who use that term, it’s racist and toxic. The problem with a lot of “white pride” groups is they think that white people are superior to others (ie racism) and they carry out hateful actions based on that tenant. But simply being proud of yourself isn’t inherently bad (ditto to “Mexican pride” “LGBT pride” “Black pride” etc). No one has a problem with Irish people celebrating Saint Patrick’s Day, for instance, and being proud to be Irish. Different groups of white people celebrate themselves culturally all the time. That’s fine. However, the KKK and NeoNazi brand of “white pride” is obviously problematic as that brand is based on hate and domestic terrorism.
Except it’s not, done2. People like you just 1. have your head in the sand 2. have never interacted with toxic groups like this so you think they don’t exist or 3. are part of a toxic group. I used to live in KKK country, which is still alive and well in the US by the way, so I’ve definitely seen racists who are white and say they’re “preserving heritage” and are proud of themselves for doing so not matter how vile their actions are in the process. Those people are problematic. White people who are just proud of their cultural backgrounds but don’t put people down or show violence to people in the process, aren’t. Both exist. But to OP’s question only one type is racist. #NotAllWhitePride#ButSOMEWhitePride
Its impossible to talk about “white pride” without talking about hate groups, unfortunately because that’s what a lot of white hate groups are built on. I don’t fester in hate I just know how to have a nuanced conversation about the question that was asked.
I read that and that may have been how it originated, but that's not what it is today. People can be proud of being black or white or brown or yellow. That doesnt make them racist. It makes them proud of who they are. Nothing wrong with that unless you take that pride and make it into "I'm better because I'm black/brown/white". That's the difference
Agree. This is how pride is being used, similarly with gay pride or any other group that has been historically discriminated or oppressed to demonstrate that is not something wrong with it and as symbol of protest. Being used outside this context tends to demonstrate supremacy and should not be used.
Well Caucasians are a minority globally, so it’s obviously hypocritical to condone any other ethnic pride while denying Caucasian equivalents. Again we’re just talking about a feeling focusing our attention on it Is probably wrong
I’m saying that when you’re the dominant culture, seeking out special celebrations of your culture on top of being dominant is kind of a tone deaf move.
It’s not framed as “white pride” because it doesn’t need to be. We’re swimming in white culture all day every day. Black history month started because at the time, the average person would have thought that no black people had ever done anything worth remembering. It needed a special callout.
So there’s nothing wrong necessarily with “white pride”, but to really promote it as a concept is kind of oblivious to the larger picture.
Because what one group of people does or claims affects what others does or claims. The closer any ethnic group pulls together the more the groups around them will pull together in the same way. Standard sociology. Not necessarily logical.
This was a trick question, and no context was provided. For a bunch of smart people, you have a lot of learning to do. It is so important to clarify context. The word pride does not mean racism. To have pride in something is good. We should all love ourselves for who we are. The purpose of this post was to display the lack of understanding many have for the word racism. Pride is powerful, and it certainly isn't hatred.
Depends upon how you define "white pride'. Black pride is defined as a movement against White ideologies and standards that black people have to face. For ex: straight hair is beautiful, curly hair is not etc. It's a movement against centuries of blacks being told they are less than humans. The slaves that were brought to US were stripped of their names and surnames and given surnames of their masters, thus erasing their history. Black pride is a movement against that.
Note that all the pride movements as defined has to be in response to something.
How is White pride defined? What is it defined against?