Who has made the jump from Tech to Trading Companies?

Google L7@AWS
Dec 16, 2018 14 Comments

Or vice versa? Was it worth it?

For example: Moving from FAANG to Citadel, TwoSigma, Jane Street, HRT, Jump Trading, etc or vice versa

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  • Jane Street Capital wCYe52
    I moved from the startup tech world rather than bigco tech, but I turned down a FAANG offer when I made the move so maybe that counts for something. Yes, it was very much worth it. Better money, smarter coworkers, and more interesting work more than make up for the longer hours (45/wk or so).
    Dec 18, 2018 6
    • Jane Street Capital wCYe52
      I did for my first couple of years, but due to some unusual circumstances it's pretty hard at this point. There are some people who have kept up pretty close to 40 hour weeks for years now, so it's definitely possible. It's hard, though - there's always more to do than we can get done, so you have to be pretty disciplined to leave on time.
      Dec 18, 2018
    • Jane Street Capital / Eng cohobast
      Second that. Iā€™d say 9-6 days aka 45 hour weeks are the norm among devs, but 40/wk is still doable.
      Dec 18, 2018
    • Facebook Valmanway
      If you've been at Google, etc before Jane Street, would you say the work is harder or expectations higher? 45 hours doesn't sound bad, but just wanted to check if that's because you guys are better than the average google engineer.
      Dec 18, 2018
    • Google / Eng
      Evenflow

      Google Eng

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      Northrop Grumman
      Evenflowmore
      Why don't they just hire more engineers so people don't have to work so much?
      Dec 18, 2018
    • Jane Street Capital wCYe52
      We are hiring more engineers, constantly. There's a limit to how many we can onboard well in a given amount of time and we'd rather work harder or let things go undone than mess that up.
      Dec 18, 2018
  • Facebook Valmanway
    I've heard Citadel is notorious for long hours and firing fast, you can see some comments here and on glassdoor about that.

    Looks like some people think Two Sigma has okay work-life balance on glassdoor and I've seen a few comments on blind about it being a 9-6 job.

    Don't know for sure though, there isn't as much info about these companies as FANG and we're probably only hearing anecdotes from a handful of people, would be interested to learn more.

    Edit: You should also try tagging Two Sigma, Citadel, and Jane Street
    Dec 16, 2018 3
    • Microsoft no_eir
      True. Most trading firms are just smaller than Big 4, and mainly recruit from prestigious universities (not necessarily top CS schools). I've received an offer from a NYC-based trading firm in the past, and my friend there told me hours are 9-6/7. My impression is that the tech is not super interesting depending on what you're looking for, but the compensation can be quite high.
      Dec 16, 2018
    • Facebook Valmanway
      Which firm is it, if you don't mind sharing? 9-7 as an average sound a bit rough.
      Dec 16, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng Tier 1
      That completely depends on what sort of firm it is.

      Some have very interesting models.

      Some go to extreme lengths to reduce latency in the millisecond level.

      Some are just really boring.
      Dec 17, 2018
  • Google L7@AWS
    OP
    This post has 10 likes but no reply from someone who has actually made the switch yet. I hope they are not too busy working long hours šŸ˜ž
    Dec 16, 2018 0
  • Google / Eng
    Evenflow

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    Northrop Grumman
    Evenflowmore
    And what about fintech infra? Any first hand experience around actual wlb and culture vs fang?
    Dec 16, 2018 0
  • Cisco yya
    Same question - plus what role - quant research vs quant dev
    Dec 16, 2018 0