Why India can’t build top tech companies like China?

Amazon rajjj
Apr 16 97 Comments

Because China bans US internet companies like Google/Facebook/Uber/AWS/MSFT. While our Indian CEOs of US companies help their companies to beat Indian competitors in India. Shame on them. We should also ban US and even some China companies (I don’t like Tik Tok, it is so stupid). We should build our own Internet companies instead of body shops. Indians are the most hard working people in the world, and we deserve better. Not just H1B slaves

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  • Comcast ichiban
    Move back to India and do it. When the company is 10Bn market cap and can afford $350k TC call me I’ll join
    Apr 16 14
    • LOL
      Apr 17
    • Amazon
      🍪cutter

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      🍪cuttermore
      Bottom line - Comcast is a giant clusterFck
      Apr 17
    • Google
      tsukino

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      tsukinomore
      is monthly payment better than annual contract?
      Apr 17
    • New kaminaa
      This is why India sucks, everyone tryna pull jokes and pulling others down
      Apr 17
    • Agreed. In other countries, there are no jokes. Everyone's serious always, comedy is banned.
      Apr 17
  • Microsoft
    tech.ladki

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    Here are a few reasons
    1., the entitled attitude of how Indians are the smartest/hard working people. Without any data whatsoever to support the claim.

    2. Inability to understand that Sundar and Nadella and many like them are American citizens.

    3. Unwillingness to accept India's problems, both infrastructural and cultural. Several aspects of Indian culture from marriages to education are very superficial and narrow minded
    Apr 16 3
    • Intuit / Eng Hibernate
      This.

      Indian here and I feel ashamed whenever some jingoistic compatriot starts beating his chest proclaiming we are the greatest in the world. We insist on clinging to Indian origin CEOs for solace.

      India has a much longer road to traverse before we get there and probably won't happen in my lifetime.
      Apr 16
    • Cisco tutus
      Point 2 is wrong ! Yes they are US citizens! But they were born and raised in India! Know that to be a CEO of any company in US you need to be citizen ! So that doesn’t discredit india
      Apr 16
    • Microsoft
      tech.ladki

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      tech.ladkimore
      As US citizens, Indian Americans owe their allegiance first to US.
      Apr 16
  • Oracle
    beEvil

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    beEvilmore
    most engineers in bay area wont be able to pass an entry level SWE interview in China. they dont ask leetcode, but ask things like how to optimized GC, concurrency, thread pool, LB, handling message queue failure
    Apr 16 6
    • Microsoft
      tech.ladki

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      tech.ladkimore
      Just curious, is it Leetcode like algorithm questions?
      Mind sharing a few examples
      Apr 16
    • There are 1 or 2 LC easy/medium questions. Others are just like how redis persists data or comparing G1 GC vs CMS GC in openJDK
      Apr 16
    • Amazon bayyyzoes
      Leetcode is to teach you how to design software. The questions you list are for how to implement it.
      Apr 17
    • Intel eKPG80
      lol says two guys that works at yahoo and oracle
      Apr 17
    • Yahoo gabdu
      I joined Yahoo in 2004 straight out of college. You know what Yahoo was that time. What do you know.
      Apr 17
  • This is why I think Indians who think India will rival the us or beat china are delusional.

    Most Indians want to STAY in the US and slave away for the white man. I honestly don't blame them because their government is barely making any progress in building their OWN companies and infrastructure, unlike china.
    Apr 16 2
    • The ultimate dream of Indian techies is to become a Satya or Sundar in the US. Not to be the Jack Ma or Pony Ma in their own country.
      Apr 16
    • Microsoft
      tech.ladki

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      I don't see anything wrong in it.
      Sundar and Satya are Us citizens, so they are very much in their own country
      Apr 16
  • Honeywell ⛔️
    70% of households in India have no access to toilets. Let’s start with that
    Apr 16 7
    • Yahoo gabdu
      Besides your data is too exaggerated.
      Apr 16
    • Oracle
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      beEvilmore
      ur chinese colleague may come from 1960s, dude, tell me how to time travel
      Apr 16
    • Honeywell ⛔️
      Well, you can google it yourself. Sounds like there has been great progress in the last couple of years, but still we’re talking about basic hygiene and such social norms issues in the 21st century.
      Apr 16
    • Yahoo gabdu
      You don’t need to time travel you just need to travel.
      Apr 16
    • Oracle
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      beEvilmore
      so go travel, or if u r too poor, just watch some vblog on youtube, easy to find out truth, but probably u r blind
      Apr 17
  • Jai Hind. Oh shit you mean me? Pass the buck.
    Apr 16 1
    • Qualcomm dynasty001
      Girl: yo Intel! Wanna in tel inside me ?
      Intel guy: suureee... where you at babyyyy!???
      Girl: India . Jai Hind!
      Intel guy: nevermind sister !

      :-)
      Apr 16
  • IBM / Eng silconetit
    Lol. I don't even care. We are too diverse of a country to pull this off. Not sure which idiot decided to make us into a single nation.
    Apr 16 5
    • Amazon rajjj
      OP
      We should blame British idiots
      Apr 16
    • Tableau krxi15
      That’s the dumbest thing I have heard. America is more diverse than us. Every 5th person you bump into in NYC is from another country and background.
      Apr 17
    • IBM / Eng porno
      Lol. Cities are always diverse. The cities in India are diverse too. That doesn't mean the country as a whole likes diversity.

      London is diverse too but do you think the British love Spanish, French, Portuguese etc?

      Those idiots voted for brexit. And why do you think there are a million tiny countries in Europe?
      Apr 17
    • IBM / Eng porno
      After independence, if we had been a truly one country, one religion, one language, we would have been kicking ass right now in terms of economic supremacy.

      But even after 70+ years, the fact that our politicians are still able to rack up votes based on religious and linguistic agendas is still beyond me. That's the sign of backwardness.
      Apr 17
    • Tableau krxi15
      Now you are talking about completely other topic. The original point being “we are so diverse and that hinders progress” but what I am saying is that it is not true. America as a country is more diverse than us and that dint stop their progress in-fact diversity boosted it.

      So diversity is definitely not what is stopping us, I agree with your other things, our backwards thinking, religion, politicians etc are blocking us.
      Apr 17
  • Veritas Khiar
    There are two main reasons: Indian red tape and lack of advanced infrastructure.

    India still suffers from old fashion and inefficient business and regulatory environment.

    The second is lack of infrastructure.
    Have you compared the infrastructure in China vs India?

    I have travels to both countries multiple time. China is more that 25 years ahead of India in infrastructure.
    Apr 16 6
    • Amazon rajjj
      OP
      India would beat China, and would ultimately beat US
      Apr 16
    • Veritas Khiar
      And I am getting younger everyday 😁
      Let’s have fact based conversation!
      Apr 16
    • Veritas Khiar
      First, Infrastructure is investment.
      Second China has most of US debt and they are far away from running out of money.
      Apr 16
    • Oracle
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      i think the quality of chinese infra is way better than US101, look at the newly paved road near university ave exit, they are so bumpy after few months. oh, dont forget the CA 77 billion high speed rail... meanwhile china has a 20000 miles high speed rail network which transport 3 billions ppl every year, no accident since 2011
      Apr 16
    • Cruise Automation Tc350_4yoe
      Quality of infra? Let me remind you. Bart, Caltrain and highway in Bay Area are in shit quality
      Apr 16
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    tsukinomore
    are you willing to work 996? just curious
    Apr 16 3
    • Amazon rajjj
      OP
      Yes if I can potentially be a billionaire
      Apr 16
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      tsukinomore
      so you believe that working long hours makes you rich? interesting...
      Apr 16
    • Oracle
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      beEvilmore
      yes, they got 200% , 300% annual bonus
      Apr 17
  • Yahoo gabdu
    Which top tech companies? Name few please. Alibaba?
    Apr 16 1
    • Uber yuierr
      Ali, baidu, tecent, Huawei, didi, xiaomi, meituan, toutiao, etc.

      There are probably 100 China tech companies worth more than yahoo (before sold)...
      Apr 16
  • Microsoft nazihunter
    Chinese top tech companies are all copycats and stolen technologies. I guess Indians are just not good at copying and stealing.
    Apr 16 3
    • Yes, Indians are a trustworthy people.
      Apr 16
    • Oracle
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      beEvilmore
      yeah, they are not good at copying, they are good at lying
      Apr 16
    • Cruise Automation Tc350_4yoe
      Haha this ^
      Apr 16
  • Apple turnip231
    Because of idiots like Modi and others in the BJP/RSS and all their followers who keep themselves engaged in garbage and irrelevant religious and nationalist issues and invest time and effort in denial of actual problems like unemployment we have in the country. No discussion on real issues say something basic like dealing with floods and natural disasters, pollution. If people spend time in BS, they become less and less qualified to achieve anything.
    First step would be get a decent government in place and not the sham we have been living with.
    Apr 17 0
  • Amazon Ugg634
    China doesn't ban Uber/AWS/MSFT
    Apr 16 3
    • Microsoft nazihunter
      Uber was forced out of China. AliCloud is favored over AWS and Azure in Chuna
      Apr 16
    • Amazon Fprs52
      No azure no aws is allowed in China. They are only allowed to operate in China through proxy.

      I know this since I have worked both in aws ave azure
      Apr 16
    • Microsoft nazihunter
      Don't know about AWS but I know Azure has China region servers and has Chinese national cloud.
      Apr 16
  • New
    Uoseidon

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    China's infrastructure is so much better than India's, just look at its high-speed rail system, something those of us can only dream of in the US. democracy has its flaws, different parties argue incessantly without getting anything done; one party system has its advantages sometimes.
    Jun 4 1
    • Yahoo biloo
      Try telling this to those farmers whose farms were acquisitioned or houses demolished forcibly without proper redressal in the name of Bullet train. Besides how do we even know people want bullet train in the first place. There is no feedback loop is there?
      Jun 7
  • Veritas Khiar
    Both Chinese and Indian in the US have proved that they are smart enough to start and run successful companies.

    The point is the existing systems in their old countries that helping or hurting starting successful business.
    Apr 16 0
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    • Microsoft nazihunter
      Because Chinese are smarter at cheating, copying and stealing technologies from Western countries
      Apr 16
    • Comcast ichiban
      I’m happy you have larger brain to compensate for the thing that’s really small
      Apr 16
    • Oracle
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      beEvilmore
      i am happy that even the small thing is bigger than ur tiny thing.
      Apr 16
    • Comcast ichiban
      @oracle What are you five years old? That’s not how you throw shade! Keep it original and funny. We’re all indulging in a bit of trolling before bedtime. Jesus, no one is purposefully being racist. I even just insulted OP, apparently my own countryman for being unfunny.
      Apr 16
  • Intel GJrT44
    Embrace the free market like US and China do and you will.
    Apr 16 2
    • Microsoft nazihunter
      China does not have free market. It's controlled by communist dictatorship government
      Apr 16
    • Intel GJrT44
      That permits a very free market, particularly relative to India.
      Apr 16
  • This comment was deleted by original commenter.

    • I was not talking about IP, I was talking about exams.

      If you want to make an logical argument like what you are saying, you should say it with actual data, incident rates, etc. Then you can have an actual discussion. A picture does not attribute a fact as being able to generalize to a country of over 1 billion people.
      Nov 10
    • Amazon upup1
      First, did you read the news? Does it look like something can be compared to cheating stories about Chinese students? Second, did I say that Chinese are all angels? It is really about proportion. You have to look at the results people deliver.
      Nov 10
    • I'm done with this thread.
      But if you think what you are saying is ok, it is different in an anonomous setting, try mentioning the same argument to your manager or a few coworkers.
      Nov 10
    • Amazon upup1
      You are right, thinking in this way is risky. It is not my job to spread ugly truth. My last word is that you can bet your money on India if you want to, we will know how that goes.

      Btw, my original statement may sound unfair to Indian people. It is really based on the recent rcep negotiation.
      Nov 10
    • Amazon upup1
      And frankly speaking, it is really sad to see Chinese students are targeted by American media because they are Chinese, when other people are way more dishonest in American universities.

      You can search the story of University of Farmington. Very few tell you the truth that almost all students arrested were Indian.

      https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/oakland/2019/02/03/india-students-university-farmington/2760906002/
      Nov 10
  • Uber yuierr
    Because Indian in-literacy population is the highest among all countries.
    Apr 17 0
  • Palo Alto Networks KTkC88
    Didn't India just ban tiktok today?
    Apr 16 0

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