Of the top of my head..
Google Play Music and YouTube Music are trash compared to Spotify.
Android Auto is buggy as hell.
For a tier 1 tech company attracting the best talent, I cannot comprehend why it's products are such trash.
Of the top of my head..
- Amazon ps.ilymoreThis is what happens when you let code monkeys and brilliant engineers control UI/UX and product management
- Agree with the above. I don’t work at Google but every product feels like it was designed by a developer and not a UX person. From what I read there is also a culture of ship a product, then get promoted to a new team and abandon the old one. No one wants to do incremental maintenance on projects because that doesn’t get attention so they are abandoned after launch.
- Susquehanna International / Eng Kristaps11Strong technical talent doesn’t always translate to good product design / direction. Products are a concerted effort.
It’s also just hard to have consistently good products once you stretch into multiple markets. Google music is only a small division in Google that isn’t seen as a core product. At Spotify the music platform is essentially their entire business.
- Google thinks top talent means good at leetcode, search is so successful it doesn’t matter who works on it. Those code monkeys can’t create value from scratch, they can only enhance valuable products
- What the fuck is this code monkey thing?
And what the fuck is wrong. They hire a software engineer who wants to code based on their coding skill. What else? Hire a sde based on their product management skill?
All this name calling for me is a sign of salty / jealous / couldn't clear the interview peopleMay 2 2
- How many people do you know in google? 10? 100?
Are there any large size companies where not everyone feels they are innovating?
Again google does try to update their problems and not the only ones with leetcode.
Google still has highest quality software. Even though pixel phones are underwhelming I sure think google pushes the bounds on what could be achieved from software.
- Only people who can’t code call coders “code monkeys”. But the code monkeys are the ones with enormous TC. Companies keep hiring and spending on this TC. I guess I don’t really care what users of the term “code monkey” think. The numbers speak for themselves.
- Businesses that think of software engineers as "code monkeys" are generally failing and being replaced by businesses that involve engineers in the design and development of products.
Those failing businesses think they can have non tech people dictate all the requirements and it really just never works out. They end up with crappy, expensive products that fail to be innovative and don't work well.
Some companies that you think of as being tech companies have fallen into that trap. It's a primary reason why Yahoo failed and was replaced by Facebook and Google for example. Engineers at Yahoo weren't seen as having a voice in product design whereas at successful companies it's a collaboration and that enabled the FANG companies, that all include engineers in product discussions, to beat them.
- @QkTE33, I agree in spirit but there will unfortunately always be certain "too big to fail" type corporations that won't care. Like Equifax lol. And moreover, sure Yahoo is no longer innovative...but Marissa left Google, became CEO at Yahoo and cashed out right? End of the day, just like on Blind, TC is everything to a lot of people, esp execs.
- Turns out that they aren't too big to fail, and then everyone is shocked when they do fail.
At any rate while Marissa might have made money I don't think in the end Yahoo shareholders are very happy with the result. They watched other companies come from behind and literally take the market that was supposed to be theirs, while their products simply stalled.
- Shareholders were quite happy with being bought out by Verizon/Oath 😂 Oath's burden now I guess. And yea everyone was shocked by Equifax but what did the execs or the company get as punishment? A slap on the wrist and nothing more for having terrible security practices and data handling procedures in general.May 2 2
- Made the switch from Spotify Premium to YouTube Premium... YouTube Music could be a lot better.
But they have a LOT of best in class products. Maps, photos, mail, SEARCH.
- There are a lot of minor annoyances:
- When I'm looking at my play queue, I can't remove a song in the queue, only move it up or down.
- When I get a call, the music pauses, when I answer the call the music resumes playing (WhatsApp call)
- When I get back in my car and my phone connects to Bluetooth, my music doesn't continue. Used to happen on Spotify.
That's just what I can remember off of the top of my head. But I'm constantly frustrated while using the app. Still, I'm gonna stick with it believing that it will improve. Don't think Google will scrap this one.
- Google / Eng lolwаtPromo-driven culture. Slap some shit together into a MVP and launch, you get a promo and can move on to making your next MVP and repeat the cycle. Maintaining, polishing and fixing bugs in existing stuff is low impact non promo worthy waste of time as far as promo process is concerned