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Why are Indian managers so damn good?

Oracle / Productedxks
Nov 21

It wouldn’t be right to go for holidays without giving a roast talk on Indians on Blind. Haha!!

https://qz.com/india/1469711/why-india-born-pichai-nadella-nooyi-rule-us-business/amp/

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  • SAP kbron
    I don't know at those levels, but as a direct managers I prefeer american bosses: no micromanaging, no third world mindset, more transparency, no hidden agenda
    Nov 214
    • Gusto Yepright
      “Third world mindset” LOL what does this mean
      Nov 21
    • New / Engcout<<name
      He is probably just racist and feel bad about being managed by an immigrant.
      Nov 21
    • Facebook / Other
      XKLa50

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      Third world mindset = low trust environment, short term gains prioritized, no attempt at fairness, highly nepotistic, unable to take a no. From the third world and know exactly what SAP is saying.
      Nov 22
    • Amazon 123raj
      Yep. @cout- stfu and stop crying racism at every turn. No point playing the victim when someone actually gives constructive criticism
      Nov 22
  • Amazon / Eng6’ !Indian
    Said no one ever
    Nov 210
  • LinkedIn / Eng
    Gill Bates

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    [Insert epic sax here]
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    You know what they say about the news nowadays
    Nov 211
    • Amazon 123raj
      I'll bite - FAKE NEWS
      Nov 22
  • Netflix / Eng
    NfOriginal

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    The small sample size that I have - I find Indian managers great at ass licking and getting promoted. I have never seen them making hard decisions and taking risks.

    Not being racist here, I am an Indian as well.
    Nov 212
    • Microsoft / EngCap'n
      I believe the risk taking comes with a green card. I'd be much more comfortable taking risks, knowing that I'll be able to find another job in case things go south.
      Without that comfort, it'll just come down to making safe bets that'll keep the bosses happy.
      Nov 21
    • Netflix / Eng
      NfOriginal

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      I agree, GC changes things a lot. However, I was referring to managers with GC or citizenship, they still not take any risks
      Nov 21
  • IBM / Engtrcy
    There are far many successful companies with Non-Indian at the helm of the office. Doesn't it sound like a propaganda since the website you are referring is an Indian website glorifying Indian business leaders Let's talk when a non-indian website discusses on the same topic.
    Nov 212
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  • Booking.com b.urn
    My guess would be cause there are 1.4 billion of them?
    Nov 212
    • Amazon Nsgdbp
      This is a nonsensical comment. 1.4 billion are not all working in large US corporations. A vast majority of them is poor. Even in India, highly educated professionals are a minority in the population. Talk about US multinationals, and in US, they are a clearly small minority.
      Nov 21
    • Microsoft Blahblah8
      India with 1.4 billions of people don’t have as many good tech companies as China with similar population.
      Nov 21
  • Microsoft Blahblah8
    1.4 billions could not build a single company with recognized brand name in their home country while a country with less than 0.5% of population (Finland) has many more tech companies. I don’t know whether indians have more number of smart people who are savvy at politics or they are genuinely good. One may argue that many are good at riding on the success of another until we can see many Indian founded tech companies doing good job with mostly Indian folks. I al not trying to discredit all successful Indians in US but some people get the advantage with networking effect such as Tom Kurian hire by Pichai in Google. I have seen so many such cases where people of the same origin hiring and promoting one another. There are many great Indian leaders and engineers but people around me complain that average is significantly lower than people from other countries such as Russia or Romania.
    Nov 214
    • Oracle / Productedxks
      OP
      Why aren’t they any Eastern European or Scandinavian successful tech leaders?

      Moreover I feel that Indian leaders are good at delivering results at what the company and its shareholders want. ( Satya over Steve Ballmer, Indira Nooyi turn PepsiCo into a successful food and beverage company)
      Nov 21
    • Microsoft Blahblah8
      WhatsApp founder & Google founder come to my mind. What companies were found by Indians? Going up corporate ladder is a different story which might involve luck and politics.

      If they are better people at delivering results as a manager and leader, why are there no tech companies people recognize despite the whole country is devoted at studying in computer science? Some leaders might be genuinely good but you can argue for the other ones as well. The fact that India doesn’t have a single recognized global brand despite years of devotion in CS tells me you cannot just claim these people are better leaders.
      Nov 21
    • Oracle / Productedxks
      OP
      I think it’s got to do with the Entrepreneurship and VC ecosystem in India. It wasn’t that great until recent years.
      AppDynamics, Flipkart And Paytm are successful companies by Indian founders that have been acquired. I guess more of it will be seen in future as the Indian VC and entrepreneurship ecosytem is maturing

      What I meant by tech leaders are the ones running the tech companies. To me, Satya has done a better job than Steve B with the shareholders and overall Microsoft business. Similarly the case with Indira at Pepsi.
      I believe Sundar is doing a decent job at Google as well.
      Nov 21
    • Microsoft Blahblah8
      Satay are doing a much better job than Steve for sure but Steve was a terrible leader by any measures. He was probably most hated CEO as well. I don’t think Pichai is doing a good job given the resources and momentum Google had. Comparing to Eric or Larry, he has been doing a poor job but he is doing bad either. However, few samples are not a good representation. They will also have ups and downs. I wouldn’t want to generalize based on a small sample. For the same matter, I wouldn’t think Indians are terrible leaders either if most of Indian CEOs flop.
      Nov 21
  • Palo Alto Networks / Eng
    OlCI53

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    Haha this makes me laugh... must be a PR piece sponsored by the Indian government.
    Nov 210
  • Amazon mzyQ25
    Not respecting work/life balance of employees. Comfortable with hierarchy and authorationism. Politicking. Just a small list of things that a successful corporate life prefers which we bring to the table.
    Nov 210
  • Desi managers are jhand
    Nov 210
  • Because sombu adikarthala namala yarum adichika mudiyathu
    Nov 211
    • IBM / Engtrcy
      Translate please.
      Nov 21

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