Why are we only talking about YOE?

Microsoft Kumam
Nov 10 8 Comments

For sure, companies have different policy to define level requirements for BS and PhD. For example, PhD campuse hire can get E4 at FB with 0 YOE. While we only talks about how many years a guy has worked regardless how many years he has spent in graduate school doing MS or PhD. Should we use “how many years after graduate” to clarify our level?

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  • Amazon / Eng Chad🕶
    I'd also put an asterisk next to a masters degree. I'd argue that unless a person's master in CS included research and writing/ defending a thesis, it's no different than just a bachelor's degree. A master's degree without research just shows me that the person took an extra 2 years worth of classes in college, but doesn't tell me they're any more capable or competent than a person with a bachelor's degree.

    A master's degree which includes research, writing and defending a thesis, etc. shows me the person is able to research other data/ writing/ facts and then apply that to other problems. It lets me know that they should be completely capable and confident in diving deep into a problem.
    Nov 10 2
    • Microsoft Kumam
      OP
      PhD makes more difference
      Nov 10
    • Amazon / Eng Chad🕶
      Yes, compared to either type of masters degree, a PhD is not close to being on the same plane. But even then, depending on the university a PhD was earned can make a world of difference in the quality. As in, some people I've met and talked about what they did as part of their PhD work, i was left very unimpressed
      Nov 10
  • Microsoft xle8sn27
    The assumption in most posts is PhD + 0 yoe should get L4, MS + 0 yoe should start at L60, etc. What other specific information do you want? Unless the guy did a part time PhD it's not relevant.
    Nov 10 2
    • Microsoft Kumam
      OP
      When we talk about YOE and TC, we can’t tell difference between PhD and BS
      Nov 10
    • Microsoft xle8sn27
      If it looks suspicious for BS people will ask
      Nov 10
  • Cisco NnMk28
    Are you a PhD? Why so salty?
    Nov 10 1
    • Microsoft Kumam
      OP
      I am not PhD. I am salty about G and F but not degree.
      Nov 10

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