Why do Amazon benefits suck?

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Jul 5 47 Comments

Amazon is one of the biggest tech companies and yet I feel like their benefits are worse than some smaller tech companies and they don't seem to take care of their employees as much. No free lunch, no free prime and you have to accrue PTO which seems pretty outdated to me. I get the leadership principles and frugality and stuff but I think investing in keeping employees happy is pretty important.

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  • Amazon
    The Baron

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    Quite simply, because they can with the model Amazon has built in the house of Jeff and TBH, Amazon’s benefits are competitive if you compare them to the broader SP500 index companies. Our healthcare plan isn’t the best but it is by far from the worst.

    Also, the aura of free food and drink perks wear off quickly. It seems a better benefit in attracting talent vs retaining talent.
    Jul 5 7
    • Amazon
      The Baron

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      If you are leaving because Amazon doesn’t have free food and drinks I have a bridge to sell you.

      People are leaving but for other reasons, not because they didn’t get a breakfast burrito or a cold frosty one.
      Jul 5
    • Facebook icdN16
      No it doesn't wear off quickly. Sure i don't value it AS MUCH as I did in my first few months, but I highly highly highly appreciate the care and free food provided.

      The free food in FB in many locations is way better than the famous Las Vegas buffets. It's available to me throughout the day. And since it's free, I can take small / partial portions of things and eat healthy.
      Jul 5
    • Indeed *NDEED
      What’s wrong with breakfast burritos? Or breakfast 🌮?
      Jul 5
    • Goldman Sachs / Eng BePostive
      Not only the healthcare plan, but also the 401(k) match sucks!
      Jul 5
    • Amazon
      The Baron

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      I agree, 401K truly is the dumpster plan in the industry.
      Jul 5
  • F5 Networks RRA
    Accruing PTO is better than so-called Unlimited PTO. Don't kid yourself.
    Jul 5 12
    • New maxar
      We have unlimited and everyone on my team takes well over 20 days a year if not 30
      Jul 5
    • Amazon oFaq33
      We get 24 total days off after 1st year. That seems competitive number with people in unlimited PTO except you get paid out when leavijg
      Jul 5
    • New maxar
      True doesn’t get paid out, but wasn’t even counting the holidays haha
      Jul 5
    • Apple f18eh67
      I think I took about 45 days off at amazon in 2018, not counting the 6 holidays. Plus I got to spend a week in Europe, a week in Canada, another in VA, some time in Denver, all on the company dime. Still cashed out this year after 10 days of vacation with another 12 days to spare. Amazon does ok on PTO.
      Jul 5
    • Amazon oFaq33
      Vacation days get paid out. Personal and sick (9 of the 24) do not
      Jul 6
  • NASDAQ ooo99
    Probably because they have hundreds of thousands of nearly minimum wage workers and typically benefit programs are designed at a company level. I’ve seen similar patterns across finance institutions - those with large numbers of branch level employees typically have worse benefits than those that only have higher paid employees, like buy side firms for example. I suspect at least some of their programming is explained by this.
    Jul 5 1
  • Facebook public2
    Jeff convinced everyone that frugality is a value.
    Jul 5 3
    • Amazon / Eng
      Zzzamznbye

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      It isn't for him. He spent 30b on a divorce. Name someone at Amazon who lost 30b and wasn't fired.
      Jul 5
    • WCI One, LLC. / Eng soori
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      I think the frugality thing is such BS. Like sure it's a great value but like it doesn't apply to everything. Giving their employees something as simple as prime really won't break the bank. It's more about the gesture tbh
      Jul 5
    • Facebook public2
      As a shareholder, pass.
      Jul 5
  • Their bonus and stock is at its best. Who cares about benefits
    Jul 5 3
    • Google topCon
      What bonus?
      Jul 5
    • Amazon / Eng bCxp50
      Yeah, the age-old "stock appreciation makes up for it" argument that doesn't pass muster if you actually run the numbers.

      Amazon has had a hell of a run, but it isn't THAT special. Most of the market is up over the past 5+ years, and several other tech companies (MSFT, NFLX, and FB all come to mind) have had 300%+ runs of their own.
      Jul 6
    • Google topCon
      I hear that Amazon recruiters use that argument as well. If only we can predict the future huh? Put this in the shit bucket along with fast path to promotion.
      Jul 6
  • Qualtrics juul4
    I do not feel their benefits are that bad.
    They might not have "free food" as a listed benefit. But i have known teams and orgs that have many weekly events which have food. Also, there is always free food is some or the other buildings daily.
    And with the pay/stocks you will be receiving there, i do not think you will mind spending 15$ 3 times a week for lunch.
    The other benefits are almost at par, if not better than, the other FAANG, imo.
    Jul 5 7
    • Facebook public2
      How are the onsite doctors and gyms? Do you fly business on any airline or only the one amzn picks? Do the parties have drink tickets or unlimited?
      Jul 5
    • Qualtrics juul4
      you get the time to use the onsite gym?
      Jul 5
    • Facebook public2
      Why wouldn't there be time? One can only play pinball or ping pong for so long before getting bored. Also the spas are mostly at the gym, masseuses don't come to you!
      Jul 5
    • Qualtrics juul4
      Ok! I am open to accept that the benefits are not good based on the comments i am seeing here.
      In any case i dont work there and I was just speaking based on what i have heard from a small number of friends i have working at Amazon.
      Jul 5
    • Facebook public2
      Relax sir, I am just teasing. Amzn is openly against non frugal perks so it's sort of a joke.
      Jul 5
  • Amazon I5swfi
    The level of entitlement in tech is astounding
    Jul 5 1
    • WCI One, LLC. / Eng soori
      OP
      Why's the entitlement? If other companies do it I'm just wondering why Amazon isn't on par. And I think taking care of employees is an important part of a company.
      Jul 5
  • Amazon
    The Baron

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    I think at its core, Amazon professes to push an ownership culture and if you can’t see that these benefits are a waste of company dollars, then you are not aligned with JBs long term vision. Second, they truly want people who are missionaries who want to be at Amazon for the right reasons, not for the sushi, massages and latest craft brew.

    I’m not saying I agree with all this but I believe it is what drives this culture at Amazon. Finally, you have to remember, Amazon is a business that has grown by squeezing every penny and inefficiency in traditional supply chains. Don’t underestimate how much of the low margin e-commerce business still drives values and decisions at Amazon as a whole.
    Jul 5 0
  • Oracle mnP7$a
    Don’t care about free food. But a company that has measly 401k match, which they take away if you leave within three years, is pathetic.

    And don’t get me started on salary cap, target comp cap bulshit. I never reply to amazon recruiters for their shitty pay structure.
    Jul 5 0
  • Microsoft clBY20
    Amazon has too much koolaid to drink in their culture.. people are happy with that
    Jul 5 0
  • Google topCon
    Frugality is an LP. Unless that changes, benefits and perks will always lag other tech companies.
    Jul 5 0
  • Google vrxi
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  • Snapchat
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    He lost much less than what he could have. Your analogy is wrong. He did not lose 30bn of amazon money, he lost his personal assets
    Jul 5 0