It seems all the major tech companies are going thru the usual diversity & inclusion training/rhetoric. To keep it plain and simple, theres only 3 choices. What is your honest opinion?
http://fortune.com/2014/10/23/female-workers-tech-industry/ "No matter the job, women don’t want to work in tech"
they don't need to work so hard because they have a pussy.
Shitposter is an apt name
Most woman's don't deliver !! ( Personal experience )
1) not enough girls exposed to cs early on 2) some people treat women in tech like shit (or I guess a set of boobs, to be more accurate) - luckily hasn't been the case for me My two cents.
“There’s only 3 choices and 1 of them doesn’t address the question. Not only are the choices not mutually exclusive, they are correlated. Alas I have ensured that you can only pick one. Thus sayeth me.” FTFY
Like i care
From my twin sister’s personal experience, the shit women deal with to even graduate is unreal. As a man, sitting in the same class, some of that goes unnoticed because you’re not targeted. It did for me even though my sis was sitting in the same class and was targeted. I wish I had paid more attention and been more vocal.
Can you elaborate?
There were several instances, far too many. But there were professors who off hand declared that women would not get more than a C. I didn’t speak up then, sadly-I was young and stupid and didn’t think it was my problem. My sister ended up dropping a class and waiting a full year to get a different professor. She aced that class. There was one professor who took special pleasure in badgering women in his classes and got real shit eating grin on his face when they got flustered. I went to complain about the case I witnessed when he deliberately made a woman cry during her final project presentation by continuously telling her that her husband must have done her final since she’s useless. Turns out he had at least 5-10 complaints lodged against him every year and the dean basically said “now that you’re here, guess I gotta do something, huh?” Wtf? So 10 women a year isn’t substantial claims but it only takes one dude to show up to validate that there’s a problem? The prof. was STILL not fired, they moved him to another campus. Those were the ones that really made me think but there were countless other small instances where it totally went over my head until I talked to my sister and saw the effect it had on her. After some deep thinking I realized that the only reason I cared even the little bit is because I had a way to relate to these problems somewhat due to the effect it had on my sister. Otherwise I would have not cared at all.
Women are less interested in tech because society tells them that STEM fields are for men. That’s why boys are given legos and construction sets and girls are given barbies — they’re conditioned from a young age. My parents straight up told my sister that bc she’s a girl, she’s not smart enough to do CS, even though they practically shoved a computer down my throat. I have a ton a friends with this same experience. If not parents, then teachers and the media. 1) we need to change cultural and gender norms and 2) once women climb the uphill battle to get into tech, we need to stop treating them like shit (ex: Susan Fowler, upload VR)
Encouragement to learn and advance STEM related skills at an early age is a big part of it. Though it goes beyond toys for sure. I was a bit stunned at my 10 year old daughters parent teacher conference to be told that her male math teacher was a little concerned about her being in the accelerated math class but she proved herself to him over the first month or so of class as the grades accumulated. Um she’s always been a top math student.. where did that come from??? An even larger part of it is helping middle school and high school girls relate to the societal benefits tech careers can provide. Girls tend toward careers where they can “help people” and it’s not intuitively obvious to them in the critical middle school/high school years that tech related careers provide that opportunity. There is also a critical mass effect - it’s HARD to be the “different” one - think the lone girl or two amidst a sea of boys. Still true as an adult. The genders think differently, and frankly some teenage boys can be total asses to those they consider to be different. I have a 15 year old son - have seen it first hand. In regard to women that initially start out in tech and drop out mid career - multiple reasons. First the hours can be long - I wish I could remember having a 40 hour work week in the last decade. Really tough to be in the sandwich generation where you are dealing with kid stuff and aging parent stuff while still in a demanding career. And let’s not forget - you have to continually retool your skill set to keep pace with innovation in the space to remain relevant. Often on your own time (after hours). There is also the angle of management. I have found my female directs have somewhat different expectations of me as a manager than my male directs do, and as a consequence I find I have to tailor my approach. I am female, so I am hopefully a bit more tuned into that angle just based on my own experiences with my managers (all of whom have been male). Long rant - but I think the poll over simplifies the root causes.
It is discrimination. Women have been historically left out from positions of power or jobs that give more money. The proof is that the first programmers were women. Once programming became more popular men started to exclude women and take those jobs.
I think it also has to do with the media. The typical software engineer image is far from what teenage girls would think of becoming when they grow up.
Why do we see significantly more women in psychology, teaching, and nursing? Good question.
👋 James
^ just got it 😂