Why do we work (so hard)?

Microsoft Omanuch
Jan 6 333 Comments

Seriously, why do we work? Not only work, but work very hard and sometimes even sacrifice our health and personal/family life? Just money? Or prestige?

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TOP 333 Comments
  • Microsoft Mrktwhspr
    I work for tc. Tc is joy. Tc is life. Anyone that says otherwise is lying or has crappy tc.
    Jan 6 11
    • Square / Eng SQ
      Prestige is something only new grads care about. Jesus Christ it's annoying to see how often it's blindly parroted.
      Jan 6
    • Microsoft / Eng Tier 1
      Many senior engineers care about prestige as well.
      Jan 6
    • Square / Eng SQ
      No they don't. No one looks at your pedigree when you're interviewing for companies (for mid to senior engineers). The only ones who care are the insecure people who like to stroke their dick at "I worked at Facebook as engineer #2431".

      I've interviewed people from all kinds of "non" prestigious companies. Very talented people at my company come from "non" prestigious companies.
      Jan 6
    • Twitter 🐒。
      Prestige is worthless. Can’t buy you a house.
      Jan 6
    • Google DWaU03
      Short sighted
      Jan 7
  • Barclays PLC FAANGHNTER
    Fulfilment and engagement , else our minds will go to shit
    Jan 6 0
  • Capital One !Fuck You!
    Humans are economic slaves who are nothing more than tax revenue generators that their respective governments use to pay back loans at great interest to private banking cartels via corporations. You’re a slave to a very small percentage of people who control the extremely vast majority of the worlds wealth. Just conform, pay your taxes, go to work, have kids so you raise the next generation of workers, go to your happy hours, watch your sports, and tell yourself you are “free”.
    Jan 7 9
    • Amazon SpicyFiend
      How does one join the 1% that controls said wealth?
      Jan 8
    • Google eDJS71
      What’s in your wallet, Peasant?
      Jan 8
    • MGM Resorts joTz32
      Top 1% globally is about $1 million net worth. I think you mean top 0.01%.
      Jan 8
    • Amazon yohuna
      Otherwise, he could be focusing on America specifically; joTz. Being pedantic gets us nowhere
      Jan 8
    • MZ / Other pXft40
      Tell us how you really feel
      Jan 9
  • Veritas VeriYLFl88
    We work because work is the modern definition of slavery. Think about, the majority of us wake up early already in stress with a not very well rested night to get to work. Thought out the day, we stay in our miserable cubicles working for the feudal master, we leave late, because the master needs something completed. Next day, it is dejavu all over. We loose contact with our friends and family and we think our work friends are our friends. The master trap us with our 401ks and our health insurance or visa issues, glass ceiling or age discrimination. So, this is why we work.
    Jan 7 7
    • NewRelic / Eng bdrang
      I hear those options have great health plans.
      Jan 7
    • Google / Eng Bluths
      So you’re actively making a choice to work so you can have health insurance. No one is forcing you to do that. That, by definition, is not slavery.
      Jan 7
    • Amazon yohuna
      “Nobody is forcing you to have the basic things you need to live that are controlled by a powerful few” what? That’s feudalist coercion my dude
      Jan 8
    • Amazon yohuna
      “just start ur own business and stop asking questions” is telling a serf to get their own fiefdom: it doesn’t actually address the issue being presented. If everyone owned a business, society would collapse. We need labor to survive, the question is how the benefits of that labor should be distributed
      Jan 8
    • Uber / Eng HowdyPardn
      Too real 😐
      Jan 8
  • Bank of America ComTruise
    Cause it is a low risk-medium reward approach for mediocre to moderately smart people.
    Jan 7 2
    • Return to Your Power 1username
      Underrated reply
      Jan 7
    • Facebook alt_qq
      100%

      If you don't have the talent or haven't developed the skills to perform how you need to at the next level (within 40 hours), lots of companies will promote you if you just get more done by working longer... Then the cycle continues because you're in over your head and need to keep working more to keep moving along

      People use working more as a shortcut to career advancement and never develop the efficiency needed to have a good WLB that would come with a slower promotion pace
      Jan 8
  • Amazon / Eng FruitCake
    Food doesn't magically appear on your table
    Jan 6 6
    • Microsoft PuMT64
      On-call varies a lot between teams. People change teams all the time too.

      Why are you trying to portray us as slaves ?
      Jan 7
    • Microsoft Omanuch
      OP
      I am one of the slaves too, not just you :-)
      Jan 7
    • Snapchat whatTheAnd
      Are you familiar with the term “wage slave”? If you need work to feed yourself, you pretty are a slave of modern society. Try not to fool yourself too much with the delusional “I can get a job anywhere” or “I love my job” - if you actually made $, and I mean like 30+million, you would never say the things you’re saying now. Just realize that OP is trying to break you out of a delusional perception of yourself/reality
      Jan 7
    • Oath hSRl63
      Now you are going into details by saying 24/7 on call at Amazon. There is no need to do 24/7 on call or even work hard to lead a decent life, but you still have to work no matter what to even lead a life. Hard work is optional where you are now competing with others to have better life than them, which is a very human nature and happens without us knowing about it.
      Jan 7
    • Microsoft / Product
      Brazuka

      Microsoft Product

      PRE
      Bain & Company
      Brazukamore
      Op is a whiner. Microsoft lifestyle is so good it's ridiculous. Also, don't argue with someone that doesn't understand that all our quality of life is made reality through work (either ours, parents, family and other people).
      Jan 7
  • Amazon yohuna
    It’s kind of cool watching engineers becoming class-aware in real time. You guys do all the work, and a dude half as smart with an MBA gets all the power and credit. Why?
    Jan 8 18
    • Microsoft Jeph Bezos
      Unless you’ve mixed cement in 110 degree heat, your statement is mute.
      Jan 8
    • Amazon Tur1ng
      I like how simmbaa is trying to spin Gradient Descent like it’s some kind of recondite concept that no human could understand without going to business school in India 🤣. This is the funniest thread on Blind in a while.
      Jan 9
    • Amazon Tur1ng
      Meanwhile the fellow math majors here who took real analysis are just dying of laughter
      Jan 9
    • Amazon simmbaa
      @Tur1ng I believe there is a lot more to ML than gradient descent. Also I don't claim to know more math than math majors. But I am sure as hell better than half the SDEs we hire (as a former SDE I am rather well aware of the level of difficulty of Amazon algo and design questions). Anyway I think I will prove my point by participating in one of our hackathons. Good day sir.
      Jan 9
    • Microsoft Jeph Bezos
      You sure “told” us simmbaa!
      Jan 9
  • Microsoft PuMT64
    We need to remain busy and occupied with something.

    Also, money to survive and keep the human race from getting extinct.
    Jan 6 4
    • Microsoft Omanuch
      OP
      Tons of people work barely 7 hours a day with very light tasks, but still earn a decent life - in most cases, a happy life. So you can be occupied with many interesting things, but why do you choose tech and why do you accept on-call?
      Jan 6
    • TC or GTFO
      Jan 6
    • Microsoft PuMT64
      My social skills and academics are not good to work something else with a similar pay.

      Also, I really like the few moments here and there where I learn cool things.
      Jan 7
    • Tableau MrBungle
      Literally no other skill or area of knowledge I have will even pay the rent. Any of those that could be considered marketable, I never had the educational track for.
      Jan 7
  • Google / Eng Bluths
    I don’t know about you but I don’t work very hard and definitely don’t sacrifice my health and personal/family life.

    I work to earn enough to enable me to do things I enjoy. Like travel, charity, hookers and blow.
    Jan 6 2
    • Charity and hookers is redundant. Isn't the act of indulging in hookers just charity for underprivileged, downtrodden women? Just another day in paradise ...
      Jan 6
    • Tableau MrBungle
      Being a hooker is probably a more honest line of work than a number of PM roles I've encountered.
      Jan 7
  • Google / Eng rRPD43
    Because of wage slavery
    Jan 7 1
    • Amazon yohuna
      The only real answer, tbh...
      Jan 7
  • I have no fucking clue at this point. I am just on autopilot.
    Jan 7 0
  • Microsoft Omanuch
    OP
    Suppose you already bought your house; paid off all mortgage; also have a million-dollar liquid asset like cash and stock. Would you still work fucking hard?
    Jan 6 10
    • Amazon Mary2018
      Yes. I'm a beast. I win. I deliver. I dont half ass. I do it to remind you to work harder if you want to catch me.
      Jan 7
    • No mortgage in what part of the country? If in Seattle or CA sell that house and buy a house in a lower cost of living place. Then you invest the rest of it and use the yearly gains for food and whatever.
      Jan 7
    • Sounds like Samir from Office Space.
      Jan 7
    • L3 Technologies / Finance Teltic
      If I had a paid off house, and $1 million in liquid assets.... I honestly would not be at my current job...

      I'd be socializing nearly every night... I think fitness would be my new #1 priority instead of TC.

      ... What are you trying to get at with this question? Honestly.
      Jan 7
    • Microsoft Omanuch
      OP
      House is in Seattle.

      One of the natures of human beings is greediness (let’s accept that for a while), many people won’t get satisfied with a couple of millions; they want more, and more, yet even more, until to a point where they start to regret that they actually lose a ton in pursuit of more wealth. Too many such examples; and that’s why I propose to pause and (re)think what is the true meaning of life in the middle of this TC madness. Thanks folks.
      Jan 7
  • Amazon / IT ohoV27
    Priority 0: Descent TC.
    Priority 1: Fulfillment, Prestige and Personal Growth
    Priority 2: Learn new stuff. Genuinely. I would do that even if you don’t pay me.
    Jan 7 3
    • LinkedIn TeriMaKa
      “descent tc”. 😂
      Jan 7
    • Microsoft
      GillBates💰

      Microsoft

      BIO
      This is my bio.
      GillBates💰more
      I don't want descent TC! I agree with the rest.
      Jan 7
    • New / Eng hungrysam
      Completely agree with Priority 2
      Jan 7
  • Amazon lolwhat
    Don't make me think. I'm a millennial. You offend me with this question. You offend me with your existence.
    Jan 7 0
  • Target BalRog
    I've tried not working. It doesn't work.
    Jan 7 1
    • Twitter 🐒。
      Also boring AF
      Jan 8
  • Splunk OceanO21
    You like that roof over your head? You like having a bank account big enough to provide a safety net? You have enough money to send kids to college without debt? You like safe neighborhoods? You like being able to fly somewhere without it wiping out your savings? You feel secure being able to handle a sickness without going bankrupt?

    This is why most people work.
    Jan 7 1
  • Google / Eng ;O 𓂺
    Make money get laid
    Jan 7 6
    • Microsoft PuMT64
      Not all of us banged so many girls (or any). Give us a chance!
      Jan 8
    • Signpost BxgN35
      How lovely.. (Female SWE here)
      Jan 9
    • Microsoft PuMT64
      a/l/tc ?
      Jan 9
    • Microsoft PuMT64
      L is location. Yoe ?
      Jan 9
    • Signpost BxgN35
      2.5
      Jan 9
  • Apple / Eng Apple Park
    To slam hot ass.
    Jan 7 4
    • Amazon SpicyFiend
      Honestly you don’t need much money to slam some ass. You just need to be in good shape and have confidence/wit. Do you disagree?
      Jan 8
    • The Home Depot rgLV21
      Yeah you need money dude. Especially as you get older
      Jan 8
    • Amazon SpicyFiend
      You really don’t @rgLV21. https://youtu.be/bmav517MQJc

      Sure it can help, but not necessary. Social status helps more than money. High TC in Tech doesn’t necessarily give you social status as much as being a cool guy in social circles. Hence the carpenter who is funny and witty will slay way more than the mediocre PM or Eng with high TC.
      Jan 8
    • Microsoft / Eng FJFH10
      What social circles was that Joe in?:)
      Jan 8
  • Nvidia 420_Blaze
    I work because I MADE IT BABY! I grew up in a single parent household in rural America, joined the military to pay for college, deployed to the Middle East not one... not two... but three times. I've never had it this good in life.
    Jan 7 5
    • LinkedIn $(@@)$
      Middle East?? there Girls are beautiful right? I heard many times
      Jan 7
    • Cruise Automation nvwid
      Have you read Hillbilly?
      Jan 7
    • Nvidia 420_Blaze
      Hahaha, I have actually. I'm pretty lucky that I didn't grow up in rural Appalachia, but there were many things in that book that really hit home.
      Jan 7
    • Pinterest dhevtxhs
      You solved everything... we should live three years in the middle of nowhere in order to appreciate dirty SF
      Jan 7
    • Citrix Systems YUuX44
      You made it and you are living the American dream congrats!!
      Jan 7
  • Pinterest dhevtxhs
    Most of people in tech don’t have a life outside of work. They substitute everything with work. Thus raising the expectation at work for normal people
    Jan 7 1
    • Microsoft lalalond
      Generally true. The only exception is Microsoft research/windows/office/IT division workers.
      Jan 8