Why does Microsoft lowball industry hires ?

Goldman Sachs baburao1
Nov 11 35 Comments

Any reason in specific?
New grads with BS are easily offered 150k stocks and 50k-100k signing bonus while industry hires get as low as 75k stocks?

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  • Apple khvcxza
    4 yoe, L64, 180k/250k/60k was my offer. I couldn't control myself and laughed at the recruiter on the phone when they gave these numbers after 3 weeks of negotiation and 2 competing offers.
    I will go there when I decide to retire.
    Nov 11 20
    • Apple khvcxza
      200k/520k/100k
      10% annual cash bonus, 120k-200k annual stock refreshers.
      (Didn't count the 100k signing bonus in the TC, and assumed the lower band of stock refreshers):
      TC: 200+130+20+30 = 380
      Nov 11
    • Apple khvcxza
      Wlb is great for swe, but I guess it's burning for hardware engineers.
      Nov 11
    • Goldman Sachs baburao1
      OP
      Where did you work prior to 🍎?
      Nov 11
    • Apple khvcxza
      The worst of FAANG :D
      Nov 11
    • Microsoft / Eng universale
      Is this for real? 380 seems unbelievable to me
      5d
  • LinkedIn RNkP74
    Where did you get those new grad numbers from?
    Nov 11 4
    • Goldman Sachs baburao1
      OP
      Everywhere on blind.i guess I exaggerated a bit. Should have been a range
      Nov 11
    • Tableau / Eng
      0kool

      Tableau Eng

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      0koolmore
      New grads are not easily offered 150k,but they can definitely get it
      Nov 11
    • Microsoft trikkyboi
      My new grad package in 2016 was 120 over 4 years. But I didn’t get anywhere near that signing bonus. More like 20k iirc
      Nov 11
    • Tableau / Eng
      0kool

      Tableau Eng

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      0koolmore
      It can get up to 100k sign on
      Nov 11
  • Tableau / Eng
    0kool

    Tableau Eng

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    0koolmore
    Industry hires get as low as 10k stock / 4 years
    Nov 11 3
    • VMware / Eng
      tyxS31

      VMware Eng

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      tyxS31more
      No, I got 120k stocks when I joined on L63 about 6 years ago, and I was an industry hire
      Nov 11
    • Tableau / Eng
      0kool

      Tableau Eng

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      0koolmore
      I didn't say everyone gets 10k.
      I just said the offers are sometimes that low
      Nov 11
    • Microsoft pUgk54
      Yeah they basically matched my Amazon offer on stock.
      Nov 11
  • Microsoft xIdC37
    They lock in new grads and don’t care about you until principle
    Nov 11 1
  • Microsoft / Other jdpywbk
    Because they statistically can.
    Nov 11 0
  • VMware / Eng
    tyxS31

    VMware Eng

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    tyxS31more
    Numbers are also not absolute, highly depends on the location, Seattle is not as hot as SF, so numbers are not as high.
    Nov 11 0
  • Microsoft fuckcoding
    Correction : as low as 30K
    Nov 11 0

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