We expect to be paid like doctors, lawyers, investment bankers, and then expect to work 9-5 and be done. Why is this the case? Feels like there’s so many lazy engineers who use WLB and burnout as an excuse to do less. Where are some places that hold the bar super high and pay those who meet it?
Output isn’t proportional to hours worked
It is not proportional but it does depend on hours spent. If it wasn’t true Elon wouldn’t camp at the assembly line in the tent where they make cars now
I’m not saying it is. If you’re a high performer in 8 hours, you’ll do more in 12, I promise you.
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Because software engineering output/productivity isn’t linear to hours worked.
Why long hours? So that you can help someone else build their empire even cheaper at the cost of your own lives? The only thing common in the listed professions is that they gain exclusivity by training and keeping their trade secret or hard to practice. You're complaining about "lazy engineers" like there is real work to do for all of them! Hah!
Because you embrace the stupid american doctrine where you live to work. It's not the fault of these "lazy" engineers that you have nothing to do in your life and can do 12h/d. Some of us value our personal life more than a company's success. Why work relentlessly for a company that doesn't care about you?
I’d argue that unless you are the owner of the company, you don’t need to work super hard.
American? Other countries have this idea much more ingrained into society.
You are paying for my wisdom and experience, not my hours week.
Being lazy is one of the tenants of being good at what we do. Along with hubris, and impatience.
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