Why is Google still considered top destination for engineering?

So many exciting things happening in different tech companies. Google is still considered top destination by many even though they have a broken interview process and slow promotion process.

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Amazon I'mGay AMA Dec 27, 2017

I think the exclusivity and the perks. My brother works there and he says my work sounds a lot more interesting and fulfilling than his, but he gets so many perks he feels cozy and doesnt want to jump ship. Sounds like finding cool projects at google is tougher than at Amazon.

Google bPBa22 Dec 27, 2017

$$$, that is all

Microsoft Maximat Dec 28, 2017

FB pays same as Google. My FB offer is $10k more than Google.

Google bPBa22 Dec 28, 2017

Why didn’t you negotiate with Google? They would’ve paid you more. Also, from the posts on here Google seems to pay more at every level and give better refreshers.

Amazon 5dy5z8 Dec 27, 2017

Google is on the road to becoming Microsoft. Similar cultures, bloated orgs, late to market, innovation stagnating, political empire-building. Milking their near-monopoly cash cow. Google is still a very desirable company to work for and has amazing perks, but without some pretty large changes their glory days are over. My friends there love the pay, prestige and perks, but are bored to tears and don’t enjoy their job.

Google stewart399 Dec 27, 2017

Such an idiotic and ignorant comment

BlackBerry QR🎄🦍🤖🔐 Dec 27, 2017

@stewart: He obviously thinks his company is better 😆😂😝

Uber TravisScot Dec 27, 2017

Google has been the driving force behind many changes to the tech industry such as deep learning, fault tolerant distributed databases, and so much more. Every other company follows its leveling practices, interviews, and engineering ladder(SRE, TLM, not incentivizing engineers to move to management). It also has rigorous engineering standards: solutions are long term, documentation is part of releasing a feature/product, mature testing infra, etc. No other desirable tech company has had such an impact on the tech industry

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ryujehong Dec 27, 2017

The problem with google is that google doesn’t know how to utilize its tech to nurture a new market, google is good at large scale distributed systems and amazon rules in cloud computing; google is good at ai and amazon rules smart home market again... exciting projects come only after exciting market opportunities, google is not a nonprofit institution anyway

Uber TravisScot Dec 27, 2017

Yeah google certainly does not have the business acumen of Amazon. But being a business leader is not the same as being the best place for engineers. I don’t see any other company that is constantly studying the happiness and productivity of its engineers nor have I seen any other company be as willing to think outside the box for how to maximize the two

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Intuit nilops Dec 27, 2017

Microsoft lived through antitrust nbd why would Google be different?

Microsoft yMcg47 Dec 27, 2017

Youtube has been profitable for a few years now

Google erinn Dec 27, 2017

There's a lot of bloat but Google also is at the forefront of a ton of new ideas and technologies, where's it's incredibly enjoyable and fulfilling work. Not everyone has those roles of course. Also, its awesome to work for products that don't bring in revenue - you get to focus on the user and technology rather than money. This makes it way cooler for R&D style engineers. Similarly with some of the bets.

Amazon Vacuum Dec 29, 2017

Google also discontinued these new projects all the time. This is why I do not want to rely on any Google project long term.

Google ufSfsb Dec 29, 2017

Didn't make it any less fun to work on while it lasts. It's not for everyone of course.

Microsoft **nutella* Dec 27, 2017

Google has not dramatically lowered its hiring bar as Amazon. So, chances of having not so good teammate is minimal..

Google KlMD60 Dec 27, 2017

There are definitely some weak teams I’m sure, but the people I personally work with are stellar, head and shoulders above others I’ve known at unicorns. I work thirty hours a week and make a great salary. I feel that I have absolutely rock solid job security for the medium term at least. People care about doing the right thing engineering wise in my experience. My worst complaint is that I’m sometimes bored. Also in my experience, things that sound “exciting” to work on rarely are (eg, much ML work), and things that don’t sound too exciting have tremendous engineering challenges (eg, ads).

Amazon GunNun Dec 27, 2017

Yes. It out pays anyone if u don't take into account of fake paper money. Every One.

Pinterest arXiv Dec 27, 2017

Because no one else has taken that spot. Let's think about which other company can become the top destination for engineers. 1. Facebook - most likely contender - they have high quality engineers, a money printing machine and good culture. I think they're missing some of the moonshot thinking, though. Organizationally, they're more product-led than Google is. 2. Amazon - next likely contender given their history and growth. I think their culture hurt them in retaining strong engineers and now their hiring bar is low. 3. Uber - they had a chance when they hired some strong engineers from Google/FB early on. Like Amazon, culture and their own scandals affected them. 4. Netflix - Too small and too niche. Also I think not hiring new grads hurts their brand. 5. Other unicorns - most other unicorns aren't technically strong. I can speak for my current employer - we're very focused on design, business etc and don't have a ton of strong engineering leaders. I've heard similar stories from friends at Airbnb, Snap etc 6. Microsoft/IBM/Oracle - might as well work for the government.

Workday Scape 🐐 Dec 27, 2017

^^this tho

Amazon 🤣d Dec 27, 2017

+1