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Why is cancer more prevalent in Western Countries?

Facebook GE+DaSJW
Dec 2

You don't hear of much cancer cases in Non-Western countries and third world countries as in America, Australia, European countries for example. Makes you wonder if the processed food has something to do with it.

Edit : For those asking me for a link : https://www.wcrf.org/dietandcancer/cancer-trends/data-cancer-frequency-country

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  • Amazon grpifabjkl
    When nothing else gets you, cancer will.
    Dec 20
  • AMD LEtV72
    Do you have any data to back this up or just speculating on the "heard" part i.e., interaction limited to your social and professional circle?
    Dec 27
    • Facebook GE+DaSJW
      OP
      No, I googled Cancer rates by country. Top 30 were overwhelming Western countries
      Dec 2
    • AMD LEtV72
      The reason for that could be no proper data aggregation in the developing countries. It's way better in the developed countries where there is a system to capture data from various data points..
      Dec 2
    • Oracle pdke8
      Nope, data is properly gotten everywhere. It's a well researched topic for decades.
      7d
    • Microsoft andy2653
      How can data be properly gathered. Are you nuts ? The village where I come from in India, they used to go to all sort of quacks. People don't do any yearly annual check up (heck many have never done in their life). The nearest hospital was 100km away.

      Some of them still rely on home remedies and homeopathy and untrained local quacks who mostly give antacid, fever meds, cough syrup and vitamins for every disease.
      7d
    • Oracle fatalflaw
      Science starts with observation and hypothesis. 'Need more data' is often detrimental to progress, especially if used bureaucratically.
      7d
    • Oracle pdke8
      Just because your indian village is nuts doesn't mean data is not gathered properly for particular studies.
      7d
    • Microsoft andy2653
      ^ it means data is not gathered for my village and millions like that. True for most third world countries.
      7d
  • Microsoft andy2653
    They tend to live much longer. Chances of cancer higher the older you get.

    Also in third world countries some poor people die from cancer without diagnosis and reporting.
    7d1
    • AMD LEtV72
      Agreed on both counts.
      7d
  • Oracle pdke8
    Too much meat. Meat should be 5% or less of your calories. Search for this and you'll find the sources.
    7d8
    • Microsoft nyxnyxnyx1
      Haha not sure if you are trolling or serious
      7d
    • AMD / EngKidology
      If it like this, people from Argentina and Uruguay would all die from cancer
      7d
    • New BFrD16
      This is absurd, as a species we have been eating meat for over 2 million years.
      7d
    • Oracle pdke8
      Trolling is posting when you are clueless, like you.

      Also a naive comment about Arg and Uru. It's less than 1% even for #1, and other factors are involved.

      @new irrelevant comment, you didn't read properly
      7d
    • Microsoft nyxnyxnyx1
      Good luck with your shitty diet.
      7d
    • AMD / EngKidology
      You start with naive comments. If neither Arg nor Uru, which have the most per capta meat consumption, are less than 1%, how come US be 5%? Please explain your logic?
      7d
    • Oracle pdke8
      You are ignorant so don't bother with words like "logic". This is a well researched topic. You're not going to "logic" your way to the answer.
      3d
    • AMD / EngKidology
      Lol Oracle, so aggressive behavior. I was just asking a question about the 5%, where does it come from?

      You said the following in the comment: “Also a naive comment about Arg and Uru. It's less than 1% even for #1, and other factors are involved.”, but the original one you said more than 5% of meat causes cancer. So I did not understand the logic. Anyway, I’ll continue eating my bloody beef and I hope you also feel happy with your lettuce. #peace
      3d
  • Because ppl in western countries tend to live longer
    7d0
  • PayPal / EngGopherGd
    High meat consumption = high rate of cancer
    7d2
    • Oracle fatalflaw
      Probably not. See my reply on the main thread.
      7d
    • New BFrD16
      Vegan propaganda
      7d
  • Facebook alfhwpdj
    because in developed countries, you die before you can get cancer.
    7d2
    • Facebook alfhwpdj
      typo. developing
      7d
    • Oracle fatalflaw
      This seems true in some sense for the human species. Cancer eventually gets you if you're mostly healthy. The understanding is still developing.
      7d
  • Cisco Hnay279
    why are athletes more likely to get cancer than non-athletes? similar reason
    7d2
  • Amazon / Eng
    onMyWay

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    Because these countries tend to offer faster diagnosis than other countries? If your population receives one or two check ups a year, you’re likely to yield more diagnosis than if only a quarter of your population received a single checkup every couple years, for example.
    Dec 25
    • Facebook GE+DaSJW
      OP
      Ok so why do countries as advanced as Japan not have similar rates then?
      Dec 2
    • Oracle pdke8
      Common guess but wrong. Data is properly gathered everywhere.
      7d
    • Amazon / Eng
      onMyWay

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      Can’t speak for Japan, but I can say the number of check ups in Norway is higher than the number of check ups in Sudan.
      7d
    • Oracle pdke8
      Also irrelevant. They don't gather data from asking docs. You are out of your lane.
      7d
    • Amazon / Eng
      onMyWay

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      Actually docs do report anonymous data to aggregate polls
      7d
  • Citibank / Finance$$>RSU
    Industrialization = cancer
    7d0
  • Groupon YS1A1D
    The National Geographic article on blue zones suggests it is food (high meat + processed) + stress + low activity levels.
    7d2
    • New BFrD16
      Properly conducted studies between meat eaters and vegetarians who live equally healthy lifestyles showed no difference in longevity. Meat isn’t a factor.
      7d
    • Groupon YS1A1D
      I rather agree that article seems a bit biased, but it is the only real data point I have seen so far. Most of the groups they studied eat meat a couple of times a year. The only counter examples I saw were from the Paleo crowd and they weren't very scientific.
      7d
  • Qualcomm rmat62
    It's the food. I heard food makes 90% of what's us.
    7d0
  • Amazon aSoL84
    Do you have actual data on the differences? Would love to know what the gap is
    Dec 21
  • Microsoft / EngTier 1
    If it was the processed food, I’d assume the US would rank before AU/NZ.
    7d0
  • Apple / EngMarijuana
    Because the others have lower life expectancy - they die before the cancer gets them.
    7d0
  • Oracle pdke8
    Answered in "Forks Over Knives"
    7d0
  • US has unhealthy car centric lifestyles
    7d0
  • Oracle fatalflaw
    Microbiome changes under different conditions. Differences in diet, lifestyle, and surrounding microscopic organisms causes people of any origin to have higher immune system disease incidence in environment different from their ancestors.
    7d0
  • Google / Eng🐔block
    This thread gave me cancer
    7d0
  • Facebook / Engfinsta
    It's what you eat tby
    7d0
  • Amazon jEEg41
    Capitalism = Cancer 😅
    7d0
  • Oracle pdke8
    Overall all less than 1%, doesn't seem worrying.
    7d0
  • AMD / EngKidology
    Genetics and lifestyle I would say.
    7d0

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