Tech IndustrySep 14, 2019
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Why is it that women have special career fairs, events, programs, scholarships, etc.?

Constantly I see advertising for special career events and fairs and stuff for women. I don't understand why everyone thinks they need all this extra exclusive help. They are all able to learn coding just like men. They are all able to go school for computer science. They can learn everything with the same resources as men. They aren't blocked from anything. They have all the same opportunities. Am I truly in the minority for thinking that women are just as capable and shouldn't need all this extra exclusive aid? I mean, am I wrong? Are they actually less capable and do in fact need it? I don't think so.

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Amazon EhhA81 Sep 14, 2019

You started out strong, dude. Then your sexism and gender bias started showing.

Wayfair oim8y Sep 14, 2019

Wow sexism great argument everyone is a sexist. What is biology?

Microsoft Raiders! Sep 14, 2019

Chop it off then. U can join too, sissy.

LinkedIn tendies Sep 15, 2019

Actually that doesn't work. Transgender people are heavily discriminated. People assume gender by your face and body shape (in clothes) unfortunately.

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Our society accepts that discrimination even in hiring.

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Wayfair oim8y Sep 14, 2019

Because they r insecure in their abilities

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Twitter jkkugdyh Sep 14, 2019

And a lot of these are not inclusive of transwomen at all

Dell .+ Sep 14, 2019

Probably because tech has a big 'welcome tech bros' sign and women feel alienated so we should make an effort to say, we welcome women in tech and will respect you as an equal if you have the skills

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Riverbed Technology dagdaubab Sep 14, 2019

Not really, I've seen a lot of women getting jobs at events like GHC by clearing couple of interviews, each not more than 30 mins, and questions like reverse string or check if palindrome.

American Express ohRu46 Sep 14, 2019

OP, you're right about this -- women ARE just as capable as men. The "help" part is because our culture has TOLD women, both directly and indirectly, that computer science isn't really "for" us. And even if we DO go into school or industry for comp sci, it's an uphill battle: we weren't encouraged to seriously consider CS as a degree in high school, so we might enter college with much more to learn (and fewer female students to study with). We might enter the job market, only to find that firms with lots of male coders don't like the idea of working with female engineers, or simply don't have many women in their ranks, and so there's a weird cultural fit. Women are extremely capable, yes, but that doesn't mean it doesn't become very lonely and intimidating for female newbies in this space. As such, these job fairs and the like are meant to help reverse that status quo -- to show women that we can and SHOULD enter roles in tech, and for companies, to just re-affirm the same. At the end of the day, your career worth will be based on what YOU can deliver -- but these opportunities are supposed to give women the resources and the encouragement to take that first leap of faith, in an industry where there aren't a whole lot of them in the first place.

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sol65 Sep 14, 2019

Just an honest question, when refering to "society" discouraging women,... are you refering to parents, family, friends, other women, rabdom dudes on the street or the media... etc? Because Ive been in the industry for a while and Ive never seen any manager nor engineer discourage anyone from going in. Hell, I want more women in the profession myself and am happy to participate in events encouraging it.

American Express ohRu46 Sep 14, 2019

I'm referring more to those other actors, yes -- family, teachers, mentors growing up, and yes the media for not highlighting women already in tech + not really showing it as a viable career + not really giving women in the field credit where they are due (see: Grace Hopper, Ada Lovelace, Margaret Hamiltom etc). All the people who might help tip the scale of a woman's interest one way or another. For example, I know growing up my family encouraged me to take an "easier" career path than tech, telling me it would be "too tough" for a woman in terms of wlb, technical expertise required, etc. Some guy friends side-eyed my decision to study STEM as it's still seen as "brave" or "unusual" for a girl to take up when it shouldn't be. And yes, there's occasionally an a-hole or a few who honestly, truly believe women are less capable than men in tech or usurping what is rightfully theirs, but luckily that # goes down every day. In industry, very few people would openly discourage women from entering the field, I agree there. But it sometimes manifests in more insidious stuff -- being given "easier" work, not being put on certain projects, feeling left out of the "bros" club. I was even told to my face by an old boss that they preferred to hire male engineers because women weren't naturally "technical enough" - except me, they hastily added before it became awkward.

Amazon duh!! Sep 14, 2019

From where I am coming, it never occurred to me! I assumed both the genders are equal and complementary. Of course, men cannot get pregnant nor they have periods. What am I missing?

Raytheon qtpi95 Sep 14, 2019

The experience of being a woman.

Amazon duh!! Sep 14, 2019

Let's bring solutions. Please share how the male population can gain the experience of being a woman and vice versa.๐Ÿ˜‡