Will CS masters help me? BSEE + MBA + 12 yoe

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I started in HW, then systems + eng mgmt + program mgmt. Want to be able to do cutting edge AI/ML work, and I’ll be honest, I’d like some elite TC too. I’m in SoCal, top TC was 230 at SpaceX with high stress, now my TC is 190 with no stress. Some of my friends from SpaceX are pulling 300+ at Lyft, Uber, and Microsoft. Will a CS masters help me get that? Will I need to leave SoCal for that kind of TC?

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  • SpaceX / Other
    muskytaint

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    Did you like moving to big aero for wlb? I have new big life responsibility coming up and thinking about such a move (sounds like same as you). I barely have time to do leetcode in order to get something better TC+wlb but at least I can take the paycut and coast for a year at big aero company and crush some leets while having time at home for stuff Would be hard to stomach working on defense stuff though...
    Jul 17 3
    • Raytheon
      silently_j

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      Yep, that’s why I moved. I was failing at family stuff because of long hours and feeing stressed and cranky. Had a big wake-up call and optimized for WLB! Figured I can always make more money later, but I can’t time-travel to fix relationships.
      Jul 17
    • Raytheon
      silently_j

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      “Would be hard to stomach working on defense stuff”
      I get it. You hate America jkjkjk
      Nah really I’ve grappled with this. I worked in defense during the Iraq War and it drove me to leave ASAP. Without going into details I don’t feel conflicted on the stuff I work on now. Defense isn’t monolithic, there is a lot of variety. Not sure if you’re in SoCal but Raytheon SAS in El Segundo has a lot of space tech to work on.
      Jul 17
    • Raytheon
      silently_j

      Raytheon

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      And wow that username!
      Jul 17
  • Amazon / Product DaReelReal
    Too late for you to pivot.
    Jul 16 3
    • Raytheon
      silently_j

      Raytheon

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      I’ve pivoted from medical to space after 7 yoe, from eng to mgmt, and back to eng after 12 yoe. “Why the pivot?” always comes up in the interview, but I’ve found that a thoughtful answer is all you need.
      Jul 16
    • Axtria KzhH222
      What's the thoughtful answer?
      Jul 16
    • Raytheon
      silently_j

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      42.
      Just kidding.
      It changed based on where I was in my career. I did some soul searching and thought about why the role excited me. I also thought about what makes sense from the company’s point of view.
      Medical to space: not as different as you think, both have strong interdisciplinary systems and safety focus.
      Big company to startup: want to challenge myself more and work hard growing a promising company.
      Startup to big company: appreciate the breadth of projects, resources, and talent and want to become part of that community, both giving to and benefiting from.
      Being excited about the new company’s mission and products also helps a lot.
      If you can tell that story, switching industries isn’t as hard as people think.
      Jul 16
  • Oath Atinlay2
    Probably not
    Jul 16 2
  • Apple MClayton
    You have an MBA, move to management.
    Jul 16 3
    • Raytheon
      silently_j

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      Been doing that, and it’s been cool, but I want to re-up my technical skills, and software seems the obvious opportunity. Plus there are more high TC positions in software than in management.
      Jul 16
    • Apple MClayton
      Ah okay. You should consider applying to PM roles as well in that case, at software companies.

      I'm suggesting the following path:
      HW Engineering manager
      Software Engineering PM
      Software Engineering Manager
      Jul 16
    • Raytheon
      silently_j

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      I’ll look into it. Is PM TC that much better at software companies? I’ve found it tends to top out around 200 at hardware-based companies.
      Jul 16
  • Carvana hot hot 🔥
    It’ll help you get recruiters to call you. If you can’t deliver in interviews, it won’t help.
    Jul 16 1
    • Raytheon
      silently_j

      Raytheon

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      100%
      Jul 16
  • Booking.com
    仆街 冚家鏟

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    What makes you truly happy? High TC? No stress at work? WLB?
    Jul 16 1
    • Raytheon
      silently_j

      Raytheon

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      Different things at different times.
      Right now, no stress and high WLB.
      In a few years, I want to get higher TC because my kids will be in school.
      Jul 16