To experienced people who worked/work at Amazon. So I got offer with first year TC of 230k Seattle. I am 30. I mean considering it's all cash and no state tax it's not bad money at all. Few months ago Google recruiter reached out to me and I didn't care much cause I didn't have time for months of interview preparations, I kinda decided just to try in the end but didn't even get through phone interview. After that I felt angry and decided to practice for interviews, Amazon reached out so I decided to give a try for onsite just for practice. The onsite was pretty easy and most people people interviewing were actually from the team and they said they liked me and all. And recruiter pushed for me to give a quick answer. I think I should be higher level but it's hard to show it, so working a bit for Amazon could give me that experience, and if I am able to move up good if not then I could probably move somewhere else more easily and gain some expertise. Is it possible I will get PIPed even if I do good? If I don't work more than 40 hours regularly? Do you get severance if you do? Can it happen in first year? All I hear here is Google good Amazon bad, but I am interested in large scale non SV companies. So I don't have too many options. Let me know if somebody can give me a bit coaching via Rooftopslushie or something else. Also, my goal isn't money really, but making real impact, ideally I would have my own startup or somewhere high level in a startup, so that would be ideal goal for me
Same boat. Having doubts about jumping ship to Amazon
Do it and just keep prepping for G and try again when you're ready. No one will give a F if you work at Amazon for say 4 months then join G If we all commit to Amazon we're all gonna make it. We can meet up and prep for G interview together 🍿
Wait aren't you CKers saying that pay at CK is good?
What's your current TC? If it's a big TC bump all the more reason to join Amazon for now
It is, but absolutely not what I hope for me in near future (unless if it was more flexible and partly remote)
Can someone get me into amazon dm me I need resume help etc
If you are not horrible to work with, can give and take feedback, adapt to Amazons ways of doing things, and can deliver results, you will be totally fine. Most horror stories are from people who got really unlucky and don't transfer teams early enough (writing on the wall) or they are not some one you'd want on your team. Amazon has entire orgs of extraordinary people, they wouldn't stay if Amazon were miserable for everyone, don't get freaked out by Blind.
This is why I feel like I'll be successful at AWS come January. If the teams *really* do take LPs seriously, then it should be great since almost all of them are my personal work ethics anyway. I think a lot of the ones being PIP'd out or say its toxic think they're entitled to some hand holding and not taking ownership of shit.
That's basically was my interview process up to offer. But also what about the other side, if I do really good, will I be able to move up somehow? SDE II -> III taking years with not much salary increase (which is RSUs that vest for more than a year?) will might make me not motivated too much. I'm talking about if I somehow do really good, in rare chance
Honestly, cash aside, Amazon doesn’t seem like a good place to work. If Amazon paid average, no one would work there. For people who have other FANG level offers, I doubt they’d choose Amazon. For people like myself who only gotten into Amazon of the fang level companies, it’s worth going through the grind.
Like what company is ok except Google that's not in silicon valley?
I think if you optimize on TC, FB/Amazon are desired. If you want to optimize on overall quality of life, Google, Oracle, SalesForce, Microsoft are better. Google being the dream company for offering high TC and high QoL.
Truthfully its a total coin toss. I was one of the unlucky to be on a shit project,... but Ive heard from others who love they what they do. Personally Im leaving because I cant stay in the city I want to be and do the engineering that I want at Amazon and my skip didnt like me for whatever reason. Anyway, good luck.
How long did you stay?
7 months. Tbh, I dont even know why or how it came to this. Everything was going great, and then out of the blue my manager threatened to throw me on the devlist because he thought I didnt handle ambiguity well. I asked for a specific example and he couldnt give me one. Later on he said that the skip dodnt like me because some other manager threw me under the bus from some peer reviewed arch design I proposed on the teams behalf. Whatever, I got unlucky I guess or maybe Im a shit engineer. Im still upset but Im feeling better day by day about the situation.
From what I have experienced, Google can have their pick of Amazonian as they easily offer more TC and benefits for the level than Amazon. Amazon still needs to hire thousands but it seems they might be losing as many as they are gaining. I worry that with Amazon's managing mid performers to bottom of the salary band they are just going to turn them off, especially as the stock has flattened or will decline. They haven't had to deal much with what happens when you are so leveraged on equity and then the stock drops... your people evacuate.
Join if you'd like to hate life.
If I keep reading Blind more about Amazon I am gonna renege my offer then 😂 Biggest point is not other people but employees themselves complain so much about Amazon
I joined a couple months ago and already thinking about leaving this year. Do not like it. Old employer was better Team I joined didn't even exist 2 weeks after I started
I'm in a similar boat. Tried Google, failed, got Amazon in the meantime, but downleveled, pay is great though. Still want to push for Google when I'm locked and loaded. Don't wanna get killed by Amazon in the meantime though due to PIP, bad WLB etc
Are you working already?
No, but passed onsite and recruiter called and told me the good news. Google onsite was back in April