Will be walked out of MS - when should I start at new firm? I'm on H-1

Microsoft YoloM
Apr 8 28 Comments

So after a while at MS ( still love the company) I'm going to a competitor. I will likely be walked out.

Obviously my H-1 transfer will be complete but I'm trying to figure out what start date to set at new company.

Should I still join 2 weeks after I get walked out? Or the very next day? What is my official last day at MS if walked out?

On H1 I believe we cannot have overlapping tenures so I'm concerned if I start the next day at New company but MS pays me for 2 more weeks it could be a problem? Any advice?

Current TC : 300 New TC: 400

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  • Proofpoint / Other smallss
    If they walk you out, take 2 weeks vacation. Some companies pay for the 2 weeks notice but aren't required to as employment is at will in California.

    Better question:
    Why are you worried about 2 weeks pay at 400k upcoming TC?

    Get walked out? Take a break and recharge. Don't get walked out? Have fun and leave on good terms.
    Apr 8 2
    • Microsoft YoloM
      OP
      Not concerned about the pay. Question is about visa it's tricky as you can neither have a long gap between jobs and no overlap either. So in trying to understand what start date to set at new company
      Apr 8
    • Amazon wassup!
      3-4 weeks gap on H1B is fine. I asked the lawyers. As long as you have an offer from another firm, and in your case your next h1b is approved. You should be fine. Just take a break
      Apr 9
  • ServiceNow http201
    Why do you need to tell them you are going to a competitor ?
    Apr 8 4
    • Microsoft YoloM
      OP
      I would rather not if it gets me walked out. But I heard if you don't HR walks you out anyway. So trying to be prepared.
      Apr 8
    • ServiceNow http201
      Hr walks you out if you don't reveal where you are going? No KT?? doesn't do any good for MS..
      Don't you think it will be your manager taking that call? Is your manager expected to fill in where you are going when they submit your resignation notice??
      Apr 8
    • Microsoft YoloM
      OP
      I agree the policy makes little sense. I'm pretty sure my manager won't walk me out but HR might
      Apr 8
    • ServiceNow http201
      If you are pretty sure you will get walked out, just cook up some non competitor company as your next company.. Might burn some bridges when they realise it later.... Or then you have to ask the hr when you are walked out if you will be on payroll or not. Explain this possibility with your new manager so that they can have everything ready in case you join 2 weeks earlier..a 1-2 day gap in between should not bother you, in case aws takes longer to onboard you..
      Apr 8
  • Microsoft bdosuajak
    Sounds like you are expecting to get walked out ... Did you count on that for choosing the start date ?

    I gave my 2 weeks notice recently for a competitor and did not get walked out.

    300k is a good comp. I'm assuming 65+ level.
    Apr 8 7
    • Microsoft YoloM
      OP
      Wow i know they walk out G, A, FB and I even heard Salesforce and Uber! Where did you go??
      Apr 8
    • Microsoft bdosuajak
      One of the first three you mentioned.
      Apr 8
    • Microsoft YoloM
      OP
      Hmm I'm in Azure I think they will walk me out. Which group were you in?
      Apr 8
    • Microsoft bdosuajak
      I'm going to assume with 400k you are also in the first three ?
      Apr 8
    • Microsoft bdosuajak
      I'm in E+D. I am not working on products that will directly compete when I switch companies. Maybe that could be it ... I also think it depends on your manager and skip.
      Apr 8
  • Amazon xyz11234
    60 days from last date of employment before you go out of status. Confirmed with an immigration attorney.
    Apr 9 0
  • Amazon lifeisgud!
    Are you going to Google or Amazon? If Amazon are you coming as L6?
    Apr 8 3
    • Microsoft YoloM
      OP
      AWS L7
      Apr 8
    • Amazon lifeisgud!
      Wow. Congrats! What level are you at msft? How difficult to get into msft as L65?
      Apr 8
    • Microsoft YoloM
      OP
      I'm 65
      Apr 8
    • Microsoft YoloM
      OP
      Thanks.
      Apr 8
  • Microsoft YoloM
    OP
    OK here we go : AWS L7 PM
    Apr 8 1
    • Microsoft bdosuajak
      Yeah I can imagine you will be walked out since you are going from azure to AWS.

      Nice job on your TC bump !
      Apr 8
  • FactSet kqpzdfil
    OP if you don’t mind can you share your years of experience and who would you be joining ?
    Apr 8 1
    • Microsoft YoloM
      OP
      I have 12 YOE after Masters
      Apr 8
  • Microsoft YoloM
    OP
    I'm specifically trying to understand about being walked out of MS while on H1. Anyone been in that situation and when did you start at new company?
    Apr 8 0

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