Will making GC and H1B salary dependent fix abuse?

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indiiic

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May 23 25 Comments

Common complaint is that H1B is bringing in low salary workers undercutting wage.
What if instead of lottery top applications by salary (adjusted for experience) are selected.

Will fix abuse where low paid workers get in and upset the job market.

Same foe GC instead of EB1 ans EB2 EB3 just make salary buckets.

After all the best should be paid the best and thats also great for everyone.

Thoughts from Citizens?

22yr a yoe 220k base GC HOLDER India
(CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBLE IN A COUPLE OF YEARS)

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TOP 25 Comments
  • Google sinusoidus
    Why is your last paragraph mostly caps? Genuine question
    May 23 1
    • Google wFatDuck2
      He's obviously screaming the last part :D
      May 23
  • LinkedIn madnesssss
    You see salary adjusted for experience make it subjective!

    There is already salary adjusted for experience, job, location, etc etc... That is called Labor condition application (LCA) minimum wage. Companies game this to underpay ppl.
    May 23 1
    • Amazon cCx23v
      LCA is a joke. Companies game it to lay off qualified Americans and replace them with imported consultants earning peanuts.
      May 23
  • Google Pa3V9c
    It would be really bad for the new grads though.

    A freshly minted top 10 program graduate isn't going to make more than a mid-career body shop worker, but one is definitely more valuable to the US than the other.
    May 23 2
    • Synopsys / Design
      indiiic

      Synopsys Design

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      Vlsi verification emulation architecture
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      OP
      Thats why I said adjusted for exp in my post
      May 23
    • Google Pa3V9c
      How? You'd still run into the issue where you have to balance past experience with future potential.
      May 23
  • Amazon cCx23v
    It would work.

    EB1/O1 should be for world renown people (ie, tightened up considerable).

    EB2 should be for experienced professionals stack ranked by salary

    EB3 should be for new college grads, stack ranked by national test scores (like GMAT, or whatever standardized test their country uses). For EB3 it should be country capped / population proportional to avoid having to compare test scores between countries, but EB1 and EB3 should be uncapped.
    May 23 1
    • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
      But standard test scores are already considered racism in this country.
      May 23
  • Groupon / Eng sleepy
    Also people should get an EAD after their 140 is approved. That will make the job change easier.
    May 24 9
    • Amazon krro
      Quotas absolutely limit EAD: EAD are issued only to people who are eligible to apply for a GC. Having an approved i140 is insufficient to be able to apply for a GC, you also need your priority date, which is limited by quota.

      Sorry but you don't have a birthright to live in the US unless you were born in the US or to American parents.
      May 26
    • Groupon / Eng sleepy
      Quotas don’t limit EADs in case of students and spouses. Sorry I’m not talking about someone to live in the USA, EADs don’t enable anyone of that state. I’m an us citizen and none of my parents are born in the USA. I’ve equally eligible to talk about my country rules.
      May 26
    • Amazon . 🥕🐇
      Students get a temporary EAD until the end of their OPT. Spouses get an EAD that is limited to the length of the primary applicants visa. Neither is permanent.
      May 26
    • Groupon / Eng sleepy
      I didn’t say it was for a permanent one. It should be subject to job availability and renewed every 2 years usual.
      May 26
    • Amazon . 🥕🐇
      That's the present system. An h1b is effectively an EAD that is subject to job availability. So we already have that.
      May 27
  • Datometry / Eng LangEr
    What about other industries which don’t pay as much but still need H1B ?
    May 23 1
    • Amazon cCx23v
      Good point. Right now they are almost completely shut out of the h1b program by the Indian consulting spam.

      I guess so should have caps on job clarifications rather than on source countries. Like no not than 5% of the visas for a single labor classification so that they are spread out over at least twenty roles.
      May 23
  • GlobalFoundries Annf67
    Based on your 22 yoe and couple years for citizen eligibility, are you saying it took you 19 years to get your GC? Now that's a broken system!
    May 23 1
    • Synopsys / Design
      indiiic

      Synopsys Design

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      Vlsi verification emulation architecture
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      OP
      All 22 not in usa. It took me about 10 years
      May 23
  • OpenTable Meliodas
    GC and H1B are two very different programs. GC should be independent of salary for a number of reasons.

    As for H1B, drop the adjustment for experience from your proposal. Just sort by salary.

    That will incentivize companies to find domestic talent or innovate.
    May 23 0
  • New / Eng
    hzFR57

    New Eng

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    EMC Corporation
    hzFR57more
    Consulting H1B and GC should be capped to 20%
    May 23 0

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