Will you consider relocate to China if you can keep your comp unchanged or even higher ?

Google BAUf85
Oct 22 57 Comments

I am a Chinese googler and i have a simple question for all of you guys :
will you guys consider relocate to China if the compensation stayed unchanged or even higher ?
before you rush to a hell no , consider the following facts :

1. china has some big names (like Alibaba , Tencent , ByteDance etc.)
that can offer highly competitive compensations comparable to FAANG,
(e.g. alibaba can offer 300k USD for a L5 Googler)
considering that living cost in china is much much lower compared to us ,
this could be a pretty sweet deal .
(actually beside China and US, no other countries can offer comparable compensation ,
european and japanese companies can at most match 1/3 of your current comp)

2. food and entertainment can match the level of NYC or maybe even higher
(search for the life in China on youtube)

3. it's much much more secure to reside in major cities in China,
you don't need to worry about any kind of violence .
(don't believe my words ?? again search on youtube or quora ~)

4. you also don't need to pay premium for medical care and kid's education,
China's medical and educational systems are extremely cheap
and highly reliable.
5. most importantly for the singles :
Chinese ladies are easily attracted to western dudes,
you can live like an Emperor in China .

bad thing about China :
Chinese IT companies have bad WLB but they are gradually changing it.

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TOP 57 Comments
  • Flowcast lulll
    Nah I like clean air
    Oct 22 10
    • Fast Enterprises / Eng nskcjx4
      China’s water isn’t cleaner than the US except maybe Flint Lol
      Oct 22
    • Salesforce passalman
      Wait what? In Shanghai we always boiled water and I was told to not drink it from the tap
      Oct 22
    • Salesforce passalman
      In the US anywhere in the country you can drink the tap water except for flint
      Oct 22
    • Google / Eng killall
      > China’s air quality is not as sweet as us , but we do have cleaner water , we can safely drink any tap water without any kind of filtering .

      Don't do it. Water standard in China is much lower than that in US.
      Oct 22
    • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
      I don't drink tap water unless I am thirsty to the point of damaging my health.
      I drink RO water at home.
      Oct 22
  • Microsoft
    Tier 1

    Microsoft

    BIO
    #1 in Prestige
    Tier 1more
    Nah. I like freedom.
    Oct 22 7
    • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
      They are certainly free to praise their president in workplace in China.
      Can you in US?
      Oct 22
    • Uber / Eng itsdara
      Can you wear MAGA hat to work in China?
      Oct 22
    • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
      Sure. You can do lots of things that you can't in US.
      Oct 23
    • New yfzF01
      lol mH7bsE, you think the US government is going to lock you up if you praise the US president???
      Oct 24
    • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
      Well I'll lose my job most likely.
      Freedom of speech isn't just about govt.
      Oct 24
  • Walmart ghu75v
    Lol no way. Im joining Google in december and even if i was offered 10x my comp there is 0 chance of me moving to China.

    Right now its the uyghur muslims being put into concentration camps. Soon it will be other muslims, then jews like me, and then Christians.

    I cant believe the world is standing idly by while China is basically Hitler's germany v2
    Oct 22 5
    • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
      Jews are fine though.
      Oct 22
    • Uber / Eng itsdara
      Jews will be last, Chinese like Jews, guess who visit Chinese restaurants on Christmas Eve?
      Oct 22
    • New aandj
      some of the Uyghur muslims you talked about, we called them terrorists... they truly did some serious terrorism shit there...
      Oct 23
    • Walmart ghu75v
      Oh so some individuals do terrorist acts that means you should put the entire population into concentration camps?
      Oct 23
    • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
      You thought CCP can actually put ALL of them in camp?
      You've no idea how many of them are there.
      CCP simply can't.
      Oct 23
  • Google / Eng killall
    Chinese googler here. I won't move back to China at least in 5 years given that my visa's fine.

    1. Many Chinese companies have bad wlb and toxic work environment.
    2. Disrespect for programmers, low social status.
    3. Unhealthy food. Constant food safety issues
    4. Public health/education system is a disaster. Sure you don't need to pay expensive bills, but in exchange you need to bribe doctors/teachers, buy shabby house near school w/ insane price and sometimes resort to guanxi (connections)
    5. Chinese ladies have higher standard now. Programmers tend to be a joke to them. Everyone is looking at your appearance & pocket & work stableness. So difficult to have a deep talk.
    EXTRA: nationalism is rising in China and I hate it. If I go back and speak up I would immediately disappear :(
    By the way, Alibaba & Tencent is being nationalized, so good days won't last long.
    Oct 22 0
  • Magic Leap uen8js
    Remember 996 is a norm in China. So instead of 40 h/week you’ll do 72 h/week.

    If your Chinese TC is 1.8 times higher than google, then why not? But I highly doubt they can even match it.
    Oct 22 2
    • Google BAUf85
      OP
      Nah it’s not higher . It’s comparable , a little bit lower comparable to FAANG , but living cost much much lower .
      Oct 22
    • Fast Enterprises / Eng nskcjx4
      So comparable TC except work twice as much?
      Oct 22
  • Mailchimp oshs8A
    Absolutely and unequivocally fucking no. Fuck China.
    Oct 22 0
  • New fnIy15
    No, and here's why.

    1. The Chinese government is allowed to ACH fines for tickets directly out of your checking accounts.
    2. If you're an ethnic minority they are allowed to force you to move against your will. This can be seen in "docufilm" The Hostel (2017) on YouTube.
    3. The massive surveillance state, social credit scores and a "Wall of Shame" that exposes personally-identifying information of recent offenders. It is unclear if all or only some types of infractions are displayed on these boards.
    4. Other horrific human rights abuses such as labor camps, re-education camps and the genocide of Ughyur Muslims. Additionally, it's been speculated that the Chinese government is working with Triads to assault Hong Kongers. Mainland Chinese government military is masquerading as police in Hong Kong and working as agent provocateurs.
    5. China is a non-innovator and has to steal technology and intellectual property from Western nations in order to deliver the same services.
    Oct 23 5
    • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
      Well IRS can do the same from you pockets. And they do it much better.
      I'll take surveillance over crimes. But surveillance is certainly useless in US as even you catch the guy breaking your car window law wouldn't do a shit to him.
      Oct 23
    • New fnIy15
      It's weird that you picked those two, out of the list and said, "Yeah, this is an acceptable way of life for me."
      Oct 23
    • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
      It's pretty acceptable. Only up side in US in TC.
      Oct 23
    • Pure Storage / Eng R357fs6u
      This guy repeat everything he reads on western media. A perfect example of brainwashed monkey.
      Oct 23
    • Lyft lkyX37
      I’d disagree with 5. China will out innovate US. Because US is filled with snowflakes to a point where sometimes facts doesn’t matter. But whether the Chinese government will use the innovation and technology for good or evil remains to be seen. I guess is both.
      Nov 9
  • Google tsm_43967
    Chinese Googler here. Hell yea! I will.
    Oct 22 1
    • New Ab44
      Enjoy not having access to Google 😅😂
      Oct 24
  • OpenTable Meliodas
    Freedom isn’t free. China is cheap, because the local economy factors in the lack of liberty.
    Oct 22 0
  • New Ab44
    Oh have CCP started to employ reverse concern trolls now? Impressive
    Oct 24 1
    • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
      He'll ban the internet. At least part of it.
      Oct 24
  • Broadcom Ltd. Poyayan
    I think the natural progression is : if you can attract indian talent first, then maybe US talent later.
    Oct 23 0
  • New kdogpi
    isnt there a huge shortage of women in china? no thanks
    Oct 23 0
  • Pure Storage / Eng R357fs6u
    Geez, Western media is so successful in brainwashing! Look at those brain washed monkies!
    Oct 23 0
  • New / Mgmt
    capuccino

    New Mgmt

    PRE
    PwC, U.S. Department of the Treasury, Raytheon
    capuccinomore
    Thankful for my visits to Beijing.
    Bc of them, I count my blessings on even a no-good, very-bad awful rainy Monday in SF.
    Oct 22 0
  • Google rc123
    I would guess it makes sense for Chinese folks.
    Otherwise, China is governed by communist party. If they didn't impose much restrictions for last 30 years, while China was expanding, it doesn't mean that things will stay the same indefinitely. I'm not even sure how easy it would be to transfer savings from China just in case.
    Oct 22 0
  • Google hurhurhur
    If the work week is 40 hours long, I would. Save up some money due to the lower cost of living, explore Asia on weekends and vacations and leave after a few years
    Oct 22 0
  • Overstock.com
    EZ$$

    Overstock.com

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    Symantec
    EZ$$more
    中共很邪恶。
    Oct 22 0
  • Splunk it’snotme
    It’s a “no” under any of the above circumstances
    Oct 22 0
  • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
    Have you checked how much money you need to buy a house, oh no you don't buy a house there unless you are billionaire I mean, an condo?
    And since you mentioned kids education, a condo with good schools?
    Oct 22 0
  • Uber band9Eng
    Nah, I like criticizing my government
    Oct 27 1
    • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
      But you can't praise it.
      Oct 28

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