I asked my colleague why we don’t have flexible hours like other departments and he kinda seemed upset. He called himself old school and said it doesn’t bother him too much to feel like he has to be here all day, every day- and then acted a little strange. It was an in general question. Wtf just happened?😳 P.S. The guy is around 55, but kinda thoughtful and open minded (that was partially the reason I thought I could talk about anything)
You'll find many people supporting that idea for some unknown reason. I'm also learning this reality. I think that a person can be more productive working flex hrs or in my case sometimes working from home but it's a wudu shit cause everyone thinks that you'll be playing games or will not work at all in either of these situations.
Btw tell them it probably broke down somewhere where companies went from providing everything and no firing/layoffs back in the day to fuck the employee/expenses lets lay off/fire/early retire people to meet our exec bonus requirements nowadays and in turn employees don't care about the company because they are just an expendable expense to the company.
For many the flexible work hours is a synonym for no work life balance and suddenly turning into 24x7 operation. Or if they are on the paranoid side, they might see it was people asking to good off. From what you described, sounds like your buddy threw a fit and put a stop at it at some point for your team.
I somewhere feel that he got an idea that I dont like coming to work every day. His expressions were more like “lazy generation”
How old was he? I find that many older still like to see people in the office.
Around 55
Sounds about right. I hate to generalize but I’ve been supported again and again by 50-60yo wanting to see “heads in the office” and have the view of work as “suffering creates character”.I think because technology is moving so fast, they haven’t adjusted and still prefer email as the main communication tool
Don’t sweat it. Snowflake baby boomers always need something like that to complain about. They want their “8am-5pm, 1 hour for lunch, no calls/emails/work after 5pm, retire after 30 years at the same company” lifestyle back. But it has been very dead for at least a decade. That work culture is dated, arbitrary, and before supporting 24x7 highly-available service-oriented architecture was a necessity. Why the fuck would you hire someone into a well paying role at a tech company if you don’t trust them to get the job done, be it working remotely, during off hours, or at the office? Ask him if he thinks FAANG companies give a fuck about (within reasonable limitations) when/where/how their employees work and contribute.
Absolutely! Loved your reply.
When managers praise “flexible work hours”, it usually means they expect people to work nights and weekends, just like “flexible vacations” means no vacations. I suppose the guy values the WLB he has and doesn’t want new folks to ruin it for him.
A different perspective, but makes sense
He could have been holding back a fart. Hence the reason for his facial expression.
I am 50 yo and have managed many teams. I believe we are all adults and can get our work done whether from home, a coffee shop or in the office. I don’t take attendance, but I do expect high quality work from my team.
Thats a perfect attitude. Getting the work done is important rather than being stringent about workplace and timing
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Did he have a WTF did I just do with my life look?
It was more like “this generation needs discipline” look
He's disappointed in you for even considering it