Workday vs Oath offer

Cerner blindme101
Sep 10, 2018 26 Comments

Got these 2 offers last week.
YOE: 3yrs

Oath:
Position: Software Dev Engineer 1
Team: Yahoo Mail: Big data/ User record sync
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
Base: 135k
Joining bonus: 10k
Year end Bonus: 10%
Relocation: up to 20k (only as needed unlike the other offer)
Equity: 60k for 3 years with 1/3 vested every year
TC: 135+10+13+20(equity for 1st year)=178k
(Not including the relocation since it isn’t a lump sum payment)

Workday:
Position: Software Development Engineer P3
Team: Prism Analytics
Location: San Mateo, CA
Base: 130k
Joining bonus: 10k
Year end Bonus: N/A
Relocation: 15k will be added to 1st salary
Equity: 120k for 4 years. 25% vested in the first year and then quarterly over 3 years
TC:130+10+15+30(equity for 1st year)=185k
(Not sure this is the best way to calculate the total compensation, but this is how the recruiter calculated it with the relocation amount)

Which is a better offer based on how the companies are doing, stability, culture, location and work involved in these teams?

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TOP 26 Comments
  • Oath lolsupply
    Oath is a dying company. Perks are being take away. Platform is boring and lame. I'm an ex-Oath and leaving them was best thing ever.

    Workday is lame and has its own programming language, but it's short term future is brighter
    Sep 11, 2018 6
    • Oath lolsupply
      Oath: advertising business is lame and can't compete with G or Fb
      Workday: platform and field of work is not interesting. Also, they created their own secretive programming language that no one outside the industry uses.
      Sep 11, 2018
    • Workday / Product Descartes
      Xpresso is only for app developers. There are UX and tools developers here that never have to use it... and his role is in tools (SDE vs Software App Engineer)
      Sep 11, 2018
    • Oath lolsupply
      Also Oath bonus is seriously not guaranteed. Money is tight.
      Sep 11, 2018
    • Does Yahoo mail have any future? It's only used for porn hub signup
      Sep 11, 2018
    • Oath OPnd70
      Oath is depressing. If you go to Workday, please take me with you
      Sep 11, 2018
  • Oath silentab
    as an oath employee, I would tell you work day
    Sep 20, 2018 1
    • Oath batman_
      Agree with you 100%
      Sep 20, 2018
  • IBM / Eng
    🧠 .

    IBM Eng

    PRE
    Google, Apple
    BIO
    Hi!
    🧠 .more
    Why do you care about the 1st year compensation only? I’d look at the 2nd and 3rd year of compensation to make a final decision (purely based on TC’s). Also, do they offer refreshers? Oath annual bonus is variable... like RSU’s of course

    Oath:
    135+20+(10% if 135= 13.5) = 168.5

    Workday:
    130+30= 160
    Sep 10, 2018 1
    • Cerner blindme101
      OP
      Yes workday off is offering refreshers on their RSUs every year I think the same applies for Oath’s annual bonus
      Sep 10, 2018
  • Facebook / Eng Carmine
    Yahoo. While it has lost much prestige it’s better than workday in terms of branding. Aside from that I got no idea.
    Sep 10, 2018 0
  • Yahoo Motoko
    3 yoe swe 1 role is lowball
    Ask for swe 2 - that way yearly bonus will be 15%

    Nvm join workday , changes happen every quarter here in management
    Sep 10, 2018 1
    • Cerner blindme101
      OP
      Couldn’t ask for swe2 since I have no experience in Big data
      Sep 10, 2018
  • Microsoft Lmjt68
    Kinda tough. Oath might have a fun product... If they ever get to delivery or don't get liquidated by Verizon. Workday has better prospects and stability but product is boring.
    Sep 10, 2018 1
    • Workday / Product Descartes
      Product isn’t boring if you’re on the right team. Certain apps will be boring though obviously... but if you’re in tools then you wouldn’t be building apps
      Sep 11, 2018
  • PayPal / Eng
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    PayPal Eng

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    eBay
    cat_ladymore
    You should’ve added a poll. Anyways imo you should consider Workday
    Sep 10, 2018 0
  • Goldman Sachs bMNx07
    Op, how long after the onsite did you hear from Oath?
    Sep 27, 2018 1
    • Cerner blindme101
      OP
      In a couple of days
      Oct 11, 2018
  • New s5en
    I hear great things about culture and opportunity at workday. The impression I get is that they will help you grow in whatever direction you want (management, data science, etc) from what I hear from friends. Haven't worked there myself though.
    Sep 10, 2018 1
    • New s5en
      Also their stock seems to be doing well. Oath on the other hand not so much? Just based on posts on Blind today
      Sep 10, 2018
  • Akamai Technologies 3ytu59
    YOE?
    Sep 10, 2018 1
  • Workday / Design iXYk67
    Well the Workday team for Prism isn’t using that ‘proprietary language’ very often, really depends on the projects. Lots of great new stuff happening on the San Mateo team. Ambitious group, still feels like a startup inside a larger org (best of both worlds).
    Sep 12, 2018 0
  • Microsoft / Eng Trosk
    You are calculating TC wrong
    Sep 10, 2018 0
  • Neustar / Eng AdaL
    Workday
    Sep 10, 2018 0

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