Would you make everyone's TC at the company public?

Nvidia mimbwimb
Jul 1 40 Comments

Hypothetically, say you get the email one day @all FTEs notifying them at on the company portal you can not only see title, location, etc but the employee's TC.

Would you support it for "diversity, inclusion and transparency efforts"?

If so, please... explain

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  • Indeed Robynhood
    No.

    I get a good laugh from the people who think that having the same title, magically entitles them to the same pay. So simpleminded.
    Jul 1 22
    • Indeed decartes
      Text books? That’s cute.

      Everything you’ve spewed has mirrored tired, half baked thinking and dated rhetoric. Lol it’s the equivalent of socialism for business. 😂

      If you knew anything about capitalism and power structures you’d realize that the guy with the most power will always dictate “transparency.” Transparency does not combat or ward off abuse of power. Transparency does not give the little man power. It’s a convenient illusion. Because unless the little man has a hand in establishing said transparency to what extent has he really achieved it??

      As I pointed out earlier, plenty of people have full awareness of salary bands and still remain underpaid. Why is that? Let me guess, it’s the evil employer’s fault!

      Your freedom is one thing that enables your power. Most people are at a loss for how to fully and properly exercise their freedoms and wield their power and those who can see this weakness and ineptitude take advantage. “Dog eat dog.” Unfortunately, being opportunistic is not entirely “evil” in a capitalistic society, it’s just kind of how shit works. When people find themselves misusing (or not using) their freedom/power the first thing they whine about is abuse and exploitation as if they have no choices.

      The dangerous line people are toeing by demanding “transparency” and then demanding “standards” be set in the name of “equity” is that they’re creating the perfect formula for giving away their own power and freedom.

      Why would you trust someone to be transparent with you when you can’t even trust them to pay you fairly without you having to ask for it... ??? That’s one very small problem with this formula.

      The only person responsible for the kind of life you lead is you. It’s your business. You do you and I will do me. You seem to think I’m arguing that people shouldn’t be paid fairly and get what they deserve. I 100% support this, but you don’t need to see what’s in my wallet to manage what’s in yours and that’s where our views diverge. There isn’t shit you can say to me to convince me otherwise.

      Happy Fourth. Welcome to America. Seems you’ve been sleep. ✌️
      Jul 3
    • Oracle alwzangry
      WTF is "Welcome to America"?
      You do you and I will do me. None of what you said contradicts what I said. Happy Fourth to you too!
      Jul 3
    • Google WVXD02
      @indeed is completely delusional. He can't separate the argument from the person presenting the argument and tries to make it personal. It makes him look foolish and he misses the point. Just an aside negotiating in tech isn't a game of chess. Get competing offers and leverage them. It took me 3 days and 2 phone calls. You're clearly insecure about the fact that you have to wake up every day to go to work at Indeed. You're coping by attacking my comp even though you don't know what it is, what I do, or where I live. You should have negotiated your way into a better company.
      Jul 3
    • Indeed decartes
      😂😂😂 You have a big head because you work for Google? 😂😂😂 Wait and then you criticize me for “getting personal” in a post that is nothing but a personal rant against what you think about me. GTFOH. Go sit down somewhere. That your worth is attached to a brand and you assume mine is too tells me plenty about you. You should have given all of that more brain cells before you let it spill onto the net. 😭 You made this personal out the gate, next time don’t come at people with your presumptive bullshit and you won’t get hit where it hurts, super loser.
      Jul 3
    • Google WVXD02
      You clearly do attach your self worth to where you work. Funny how you're the one "taking things personally" now. It's sad to see you getting steamed over something you suggest you don't care about. I'm not sure when you "hit me where it hurts". Take a break from blind.
      Jul 4
  • Google KennyLogin
    firm yes: because it would be hilarious and i'm Chaotic Neutral
    Jul 1 0
  • Oracle alwzangry
    Yes, because information hiding is how we create power centers and inequality leading to poor morale.
    Jul 1 2
    • Nvidia mimbwimb
      OP
      "Socialism in the Workplace: A Definitive Guide"
      Jul 1
    • Oracle alwzangry
      Now if you look beyond certain trigger keywords, you'll realize this is how we get mini-empires of people with no skin in the game, in publicly traded companies.
      Jul 1
  • Facebook cuck
    I'd judge everyone based on their TC
    Jul 1 2
    • Nvidia mimbwimb
      OP
      Better to judge them by their name or company, no?

      #FullBlindMode
      Jul 1
    • New / Eng tAcq10
      I don't even see people as human if their TC is below $200k.
      Jul 1
  • Roku moggers
    100% yes.

    I believe that the work environment should be meritocratic, and openness over comp would get us closer to that goal.

    There are engineers I've met in my working career who, if it turned out were paid 5x the mass market rate for their job title would still be excellent value for money. And anyone who worked with them rationally couldn't object that their productivity and attitude deserved it and shouldnt be envious of their comp.

    There are engineers with the same title who if it turned out were paid 1/2 the typical market rate, would still be overpaid.

    Reality is there was probably no more than 50-100% difference in comp between the two, and likely no real difference at all - it just came down to their initial negotiation.

    Make comp open, and we'd get closer to being paid by productivity and impact.
    Jul 3 0
  • MailChimp kaguWr
    I've always felt it should be required to disclose salary ranges.
    Jul 1 0
  • Amazon / Eng eztP64
    Absolutely. Not being transparent is beneficial for exactly one entity, the employer.
    Jul 1 1
    • Nvidia mimbwimb
      OP
      Eating the world
      Jul 1
  • Google
    GCoin

    Google

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    Apple
    GCoinmore
    Terrible terrible idea
    Jul 1 0
  • I’d be in favor of it being anonymize.
    Jul 2 0
  • Nvidia mimbwimb
    OP
    The 48 people who voted Yes...
    PLEASE EXPLAIN YOURSELVES
    Jul 1 2
    • Slack hearts
      I don't see any explanations for "No" aside from it being a "terrible idea".
      Jul 1
    • Nvidia mimbwimb
      OP
      Weak sauce Slack
      Jul 1
  • Best Buy / Eng
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    Best Buy Eng

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    Microsoft
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    Jul 3 0

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