Wrecked! Facebook's performance review process in the newsJan 11
- Citibank Ht09q7Not sure why this an issue. Huge TC justifies huge expectations. If you want mediocre expectations then work for mediocre pay.
- If you were to ask me what would happen if you threw a bunch of autistic people with limited self awareness or ethical standards at the annual review process problem, this is pretty much what I would’ve come up with. It’s interesting but far from surprising!
- The article is a straight up lie. There's no stack ranking. It's not a dispute.
- I am happy to hear of cases that deviate from the media's portrayal of how performance reviews work. Do you think that there's some subjectivity involved too? Maybe you are the type of manager who will take context into account. However, there could also be managers who don't. Think of the manager who comes in with certain biases about certain folks "That person doesn't come to team outings at all....AND he is performing poorly for the second time...I think I am just going to fire him, it's simple and easier then finding out whether something else is wrong and digging deeper".
- Hopefully our interview process and upward feedback process screens out such managers. We have a much lower margin of error when hiring managers (we won't hire if they'd any doubt) and much lower tolerance of underperformance. But at our size, I won't be surprised if there are some bad ones. Usually your skip and HR are also reviewing everything to understand what's going on.
- Agreed. Also Facebook isn't the only place where this sort of stuff happens. It's just more noticeable because tech companies portray a certain image about themselves (welcoming towards people with all types of ideas, unlimited vacations, free food etc...). This doesn't at all seem like a place where one could get sexually harassed or be shown the door after underperforming for 2 cycles.
- Facebook had a townhall to talk about Joel Kaplan attending the Kavanaugh confirmation. At this townhall, people spoke about sexual harassment they had experienced IN THEIR PREVIOUS LIVES and how that made them upset about any perceived support for Kavanaugh. There's no pervasive sexual harassment at Facebook.
- I admit I misinterpreted it. The article doesn't mention that it was previous experiences. These two lines made it seem like there was an incident at FB: "numerous Facebook employees got in line to speak about their experiences with sexual harassment.' Also the quote where one of the speakers addresses Sheryl and says she felt uncomfortable with speaking up. I will delete my previous comment.
- This is my last reply. Media are very quick to project negative images about a topic. It is nice to see you defending your employer's processes and highlighting the false parts of this article. I think Facebook should feel really lucky to have you (not saying this to mock you I mean it). With that said, I hope that they return the favour and show the same level of support to you * IF* you're ever in a tough situation at work.
- FB has zero utility. Drop it and forget it. todays teens do not want anything to do with it either.
- eBay provides a social good allowing ordinary people transact with other ordinary people all over the world. Meanwhile Facebook steals your data giving it illegally to others even when you never signed up for them. And they help authoritarian governments suppress their citizens. They are not the good guys by any stretch of the imagination.
- There is zero redeeming factor to ebay. You guys charge immense fees to small sellers with suspect merchant protection and often have counterfeit goods (see giftcards and electronics). Stay at ebay, you deserve each other. Fb on the other hand charges no fees for marketplace and is a safer craigslist.
- Most people don’t realize this Facebook is the one company we could all tear down overnight by deleting our accounts. Nobody uses it anymore anyway and even apps like Tinder now let you sign up with your cell phone. It has no revenue with no accounts. And ask yourself: what was the last time instagram and facebook truly made you happy?
- What are concrete reasons someone gets the dreaded "meets most" ? Like do they have too many bugs in the code they write ? Or is the code not running fast enough ? Or are they not coding fast enough ?
- Jerks should be kicked out. No excuse for that. I'm rather trying to gauge the likelyhood of me being fired in a company that fires aggressively. I'm not the smartest or the fastest coder that I know but I've still been fine.
What's a senior engineer supposed to do ? I suppose there are PMs and stakeholders that tell engineers what they need.
- I don’t think there’s an answer I can give you here. I have never considered myself the fastest coder but did well here. Some people who can ace interviews just can’t focus and get work done when they need to.
The more senior you are, the more we expect from you. For example, while it’s ok for an E3 to say “I built this shitty interface because that’s what the designs said”, that doesn’t cut it as an E5. At E5 you would be expected to realize that something is a bad idea and to say something about it.