As a fresher, joined M$ with expectations to work on latest tech. Work is shit in my org. But didn't quit till now thinking that quitting so early won't be good on resume. It'll take me 6 months prep to get in FNGs. So can't switch immediately even if I wish to.
I have done impactful work and 2 off the sprint projects till now. I have contributed equally to what a SDE2(I am SDE1) does in my org. I feel my manager doesn't value my work. My manager doesn't even listen to what the team is saying but just wants the team to do what he wants.
Folks who joined with me got promoted in a year but I didn't. Without any bias, I and my colleagues believe that I outperformed them but I didn't get promo. For me to get a promo, my manager is expecting me to work again on an off the sprint project. But still he doesn't guarantee my promo. Off the sprint project again means no time for interview prep on weekends as well.
Now I feel like I don't have much life. I never had a vacation like other people do, except the ones which I have to visit my family at hometown. I never watched series and movies like other people do. I am thinking to tell my manager that it's okay if I don't get a promo but I won't work again on an off the sprint project. But don't have the guts to speak so, till I have an offer elsewhere.
- Oath BootleggerAs a fresher you should be focused on learning. Shut up and get back to work. Don’t be a rat in the race of getting promotions. Work hard, learn and grow.
- These two comments by @Bootlegger and @O(1) literally embody the clash between generations inside all corporations.
Millennials: live now, be valued early on, and do fulfilling work, enjoying life is the highest priority.
Gen X, Baby boomers: work hard, learn your craft, don’t complain, be a team player, one day be the smartest in the room.
I’m a millennial so I subscribe to the former, sorry old timers. Not gunna waste my time doing something I had just because it’s what I’m ‘supposed to do’. (Not ragging on anyone here).
Find your calling OP, I wouldn’t spend a second doing shit off the sprint. If they aren’t paying you, don’t do it. Move onto the next but keep in mind learning should be the highest priority (i.e. learn stuff outside of work/off the sprint lol)
- Yeah.. agree with you @iCallBS. Am a millennial too. While all this shit show was going on, I always spent an extra hour to keep up with my learnings. In after office hours, I have developed skills + certification in specialized areas so that has left me with no regrets.
- Symantec O (1)Welcome to corporate grind. There's always a company that values your work & rewards fairly. Find one such & get out asap
- Stripe / EngSomeDudTo me, it just sounds that you’ve not been doing the work you were asked to do. If it’s the case, you did not “outperform” anybody.
Your manager has been in the game longer than you’ve been. They are most likely able to recognize impactful work. If you don’t agree with their vision/plan/goals (definition of what is impactful) you should open a dialogue with them. If you still don’t get their point of view or agree with it, find something else.
You will only be able to get “impactful” work done and be an great team member by understanding the team, the business and by agreeing on the priorities and goals.
I’d like to get your thoughts on that.
- I have biweekly 1:1 with my mgr during which I ask him what work he expects from me before next 1:1.. Not a single time I have missed the target..
Just to speak.. none from my org, who joined with me, has got a promo yet.. all my frnz who got a promo are in various orgs..
I get your point but yeah.. I've really outperformed.. in fact after knowing about my performance, another M2 wants me on his team..
If not for the promo I've gained valuable skills rapidly over time .. some managers from our org agreed that I should have got the promo but for the budget crunch..
- OP, sometimes people don’t get promoted due to budget and other reasons. I think you should pursue your promo and prep for your interviews - do both as much as possible. I’m in a similar boat, and I’m trying to do both now.
- Why are you not able to watch a movie or go on vacations? A 2 week vacation in Europe or any of your choice destination generally will refresh you like anything
- I think you are exactly like how I used to be. I always focused on my work, promo and postponed other things. I also really enjoyed working so I didn’t really think I was missing anything. It took me a long time to realize that taking a 1 week or 2 week pause would not really impact anything. In fact, several things are beyond our control and your career may sometimes not progress the way you want, no matter how well you do. So, focus on the long term because if you really do well, you will be a success long term. You just have to learn how to not get disappointed when the short term problems happen. I used to get super disappointed but then I developed a more holistic approach to life. Enjoy your life no matter what and then work on getting what you want in your career as well.
- Microsoft JNtC47You should not shy away from asking your manager where she thinks you did not perform as well as she expected. There appears to be a conflict between you and your manager around the expectations. This is an important skill to acquire, there will always be such cases where you need to ask directly and not shy away from such discussions.
Also remember that 6 months of prep by no means guarantees an offer given how random interviews are.