Zillow Machine Learning vs Oracle OCI

Salesforce / Eng asdfghjkł
Aug 12 24 Comments

Currently at Salesforce bored and frustrated. Never been excited about my work since day one but always get high perf reviews. Been here for over a year and haven’t gotten a bonus or promo out of the reviews. Interviewed a bunch and got 2 offers I like. The first is from Zillow which is for machine learning (my passion from college). Other is for OCI and I’ve worked in infra before.

Zillow Machine Learning Engineer
Base: 145k
Sign on: $40k/$25k
Stocks: $115k

OCI IC3
Base: same
Sign on: $10k
RSU: 7000 ($370k-$420k)

I have absoluetly 0 passion/interest in infra but I need the money (I need to dig myself out of debt). ML is my passion and interest but I know that I’m selling myself short by taking the level and pay. I would keep interviewing but tbh its hard to get ML interviews when your title is SWE.

Once I’m out of debt, I plan to go back to school to get a PhD in Robotics or ML so I can see relivancy with both. OCI gets me out of debt quickly so I can go back to school in 1-2 years but Zillow is more relivant to what I want to study but I’d have to work 3-4 years.

Current TC: 175k

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  • Oracle pzd
    Don't take a job in which you have no interest. You will lose your job before digging yourself out of debt.
    Aug 12 4
    • Salesforce / Eng asdfghjkł
      OP
      Nah. I have no interest in my current job and I haven’t gotten fired.
      Aug 12
    • Oracle pzd
      OCI is not like Salesforce or non-OCI Oracle
      Aug 12
    • Salesforce ydueye62cf
      The OCI offer is SUBSTANTIALLY better though. I'd go with it without a second thought. Odds are your Zillow experience would just be building models of attributes to look at, and running them through a program a real AI scientist wrote. Most AI jobs are scams and only look good on paper. Follow the money.

      If the AI job was real AI, it'd pay vastly more, because it'd require more skill. And since it doesn't, we can conclude it's not what you think it is
      Aug 12
    • Salesforce / Eng asdfghjkł
      OP
      In general though, how can I break into a better ML job without MLE on my resume? I feel like recruiters screen out most SWEs so you never really have a chance. I know I can nail the interviews since I studied this stuff and got published but it’s getting an interview that’s difficult.
      Aug 13
  • Zillow Group ylkf3
    Why do you want phd in ML when you can do real ML at company?

    Seems kinda backwards
    Aug 12 1
    • Salesforce / Eng asdfghjkł
      OP
      Research is more interesting to me than shipping production code
      Aug 13
  • Oscar 🐨koala
    Zillow. Two reasons. 1) You don’t want to be bored to death or struggle to get your shits done if yoh don’t enjoy it. And you have done it so you know the struggle.

    You will get frustrated and sad. 2) test the water. See if you enjoy ML at a real company before going to PhD.
    Aug 12 0
  • IC3 is Senior SDE at Oracle?
    Aug 12 1
    • Oracle pzd
      Yes.
      Aug 12
  • OCI stock offer is for 4 years or 5 years? How's the vesting schedule?
    Aug 12 1
    • Salesforce / Eng asdfghjkł
      OP
      Equally over 4 years
      Aug 13
  • Oracle h66b5
    How did you calculate your OCI TC? It’s 241k.
    Aug 12 1
    • Tibco software / Eng !mlikoj!
      I don't think he mentioned TC. That's the RSU worth
      Aug 12
  • Two are in same bldg.
    Aug 15 0
  • Oracle vVfh06
    Zillow for sure
    Aug 13 0
  • Zillow Group multipass
    Create a list of pros and cons for both positions and what will be be outcome for each option.
    Aug 12 0
  • Microsoft EjSq85
    If ur end goal is phd in an ML field, then prior work ex may help ? Also, the qn was over for me when you u said u like ML and dont like infra, tbh.
    Aug 12 0
  • Oracle manz
    Zillow is having a good work culture. Can't say the same about OCI
    Aug 15 2
    • Really? OCI has worse culture than Zillow? Didn't know that.
      Aug 15
    • Oracle manz
      Friend at Zillow is really pleased and always gloating .. makes me feel s little jealous though
      Aug 16
  • ADP / Eng CilK47
    What’s your location?
    Aug 12 1
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    Aug 12 0