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Yahoo zuuuu
Jul 26 35 Comments

I recently received offers from apple and amazon. I’m having difficulties evaluating these two offers.
Yoe: 2
Amazon: ads org, working on a component of the internal ads serving system. 168k tc in Seattle. SDE1
Apple: AMP commerce, working in a DS team as a data/software engineer. 188k tc in Cupertino. ICT3
Amazon
pros: I think the team is good and project is interesting. I will have more growth as an SDE.
Cons: everything else. We have 6 people on call.
Apple
Pros: money, refresher, no oncall, perks and holidays, job security.
Cons: I personally don’t think I will have much growth there, as my main task is to serve the model to the production online system (don’t know how yet). Also, there is no other engineer in the team, which makes me feel like I’m just there to do the dirty work for the DS, and the lack of guidance is not good for a junior level engineer. I don’t know if I’m right though, it’s just from the perspective of an interviewee.
Also, my goal is to become a solid software engineer, but not a data engineer that only works with spark/Hadoop and does data cleansing.

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TOP 35 Comments
  • Intel bsbsb
    Join Apple. If the role is truly not what you want, then start interviewing at other places. If you could land Amazon now, you can probably land it later, if not FB/G offers.

    Join apple because WLB and job security should be high on your priority list. Also better TC is always nice.
    Jul 26 0
  • Amazon / IT amazonssie
    I am from amazon and i hate it. Join apple
    Jul 26 3
    • Yahoo zuuuu
      OP
      Could you please be more specific about why you hate it?
      Jul 26
    • 🍌
      Jul 26
    • Amazon / IT amazonssie
      Yes i can. I am in alexa org in nlu division. Lack of vision is pretty obvious here. Different teams are pushing differrent ideas onr wordr than another. L7 and l6 are really bad. Everything is manager driven and most manager are just bad. They only care about looking good. They dont know how to care for people and for product. It is my 5th company and it is the worst one.
      Jul 27
  • Amazon / Eng preme
    CA has state income tax, where WA does not. So your TC is actually about the same
    Jul 26 2
    • Yahoo zuuuu
      OP
      I think without apple refresher they are about the same.
      Jul 26
    • Apple mlworld
      Apple gives much better refreshers unless you become a bottom performer
      Jul 26
  • Amazon fejj zebos
    Given your YOE, I'd bias towards growth. Too early to play it safe.
    Jul 26 3
    • Yahoo zuuuu
      OP
      How do you think of having a 6-person oncall rotation? I’ve never had oncall before and don’t know how it feels like. My HM says there are 2 sev2 issues every week on average.
      Jul 26
    • Amazon fejj zebos
      2 sev 2s is a bit high, but you'd only have to do it once every month and a half
      Jul 26
    • Amazon kali maa
      Yes this isn’t that bad. There are teams that get dozens of sev2s per week. And a six person team isn’t so small.
      Jul 26
  • Amazon / R&D
    ps.ily

    Amazon R&D

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    ps.ilymore
    It’s way easier to transfer internally at Amazon than Apple if you’re a good performer. You need to notify your manager at Apple before you begin interviews at other teams. The Seattle area is cheaper and there are plenty of other tech companies you could work for after here.
    Jul 26 2
    • Apple / Eng yallneedto
      It’s unrealistic to want to move internally at Apple. It’s as hard as moving externally except you don’t get to move up.
      Jul 26
    • Lam Research gurubhai
      It’s a myth. I see many people move internally . Even average performers
      Jul 26
  • Amazon ğşç
    Cupertino is a better location
    More opportunities in the Valley
    Jul 27 0
  • Apple / Eng cho Chang
    Amazon for location.
    Jul 26 0
  • Apple beachcamp
    Dude join Apple. Oncall sucks at Amazon
    Jul 26 0
  • HealthChannels / Project txdi
    Apple
    Jul 26 0
  • Amazon silver_fox
    We all know you’re gonna final pick the one with higher TC. So go for it. You’re too early in your career to think super long term when you have two super good options in front of you. Take the better TC and make your mark in that company.... and then you’ll have a better idea where you want your career to go.
    Jul 26 3
    • Yahoo zuuuu
      OP
      Is the apple tc really that high given their location?
      Jul 26
    • Amazon kvgu56
      I believe Amazon TC is higher in this case.
      Jul 26
    • Apple / Eng yallneedto
      Also consider that the role at Apple is not what OP wants if they mentioned they want an engineering role. Isn’t applying for future engineering roles hindered by the fact that they’ll spend however many years in a DS role and not eng? I’d go amazon.
      Jul 26
  • Amazon ğşç
    The base looks awesome at Apple 🍎!! What’s not to like if you are hungry to learn and move up
    Jul 26 2
    • Apple / Eng yallneedto
      They never mentioned their base
      Jul 26
    • Yahoo zuuuu
      OP
      for clarification, base is 135k vs 146k
      Jul 26
  • Amazon kali maa
    While Amazon will be more work, I think you should prioritize growth over the less stressful job with only 2 yoe.
    Jul 26 1
    • Growth of what? Do you think he'll learn much working as an engineer at Amazon?
      Jul 26
  • Uber bagdot
    It is a lose-lose situation. Stay at Yahoo.
    Jul 26 1
    • Yahoo zuuuu
      OP
      troll
      Jul 26
  • Amazon ğşç
    Apple looks much better by far - oncall will kill you
    Jul 26 1
  • New / Product pBas03
    Any thoughts you’d care to share on the AMP Commerce team? Interviewing for a role on that team soon, non engineering
    Jul 26 1
    • Yahoo zuuuu
      OP
      I have no idea. I only talked to my team
      Jul 26
  • Amazon batrar
    You must have industry experience if you are getting that much base salary?
    Aug 9 0