any difference about work environment with google and apple

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Sep 9, 2018 22 Comments

Hi I’m an ex-googler and am having an interview for Apple search ads team not in the US these days. I have some friends at fb, amazon and twitter so I know the difference between google and others, but no one at apple unfortunately.
is there any big difference about work environment between google and apple?
please tell me if you know anything about it.
thanks!

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  • Google TC = 215K
    Isn't apple super secretive about everything and you only know what's going on in your little org?
    Sep 9, 2018 7
    • Apple SexyBingo
      Chang sure you are ?
      Sep 9, 2018
    • Apple / Eng cho Chang
      @SexyBingo which org are u in? In IS&S there’s no secrecy.
      Sep 9, 2018
    • Apple vmvpd
      Yup. Secrecy is only in hardware and maybe parts of iCloud. There’s a lot of open source stuff too in ISS.
      Sep 9, 2018
    • Apple gPlp35
      What Chang?! There is secrecy everywhere. I work in IS&S and I’ve also worked in Ops. We all take care to watch what we say and who we say it to. That’s just the company culture and for good reason. I’d say overall the work environment is more design-centric rather than engineering-centric like at Google.
      Sep 9, 2018
    • Apple / R&D EqbI36
      There is absolutely secrecy in software org, and services. Overblown secrecy to the point of absurdity. And a culture that explicitly embraces “no documentation”. It’s a problem.
      Sep 10, 2018
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    Yes huge. Goog >>> Apple
    Sep 9, 2018 1
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      about what?
      Sep 9, 2018
  • Cisco What!!?
    🍟
    Sep 9, 2018 2
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      chips and beer
      Sep 9, 2018
    • Cisco What!!?
      😋🤣
      Sep 9, 2018
  • Apple Icml2017
    At Apple (and perhaps at any big company) it’s totally team dependent and your experience can vary widely. As a rule of thumb, newer teams (say working on machine learning, AI, computer vision) are better in some way as there is less baggage from the past. But even those teams can be led by old timers at Apple with no domain expertise in those areas and that can be a frustrating experience.
    Sep 9, 2018 0
  • Apple Orbi
    A lot of Apple folks are leaving and joining google - so there must be a good reason
    I have heard Google is not crazy about schedules as Apple.
    Apple has to meet the new iPhone refresh timelines
    Sep 9, 2018 2
    • Apple / Eng cho Chang
      They’re probably leaving for comp.
      Sep 9, 2018
    • Apple / R&D EqbI36
      And because we suck at software.
      Sep 10, 2018
  • Apple / Eng cho Chang
    Wlb is good at both. Perks are much better at google; Apple doesn’t have free food and stuff.
    Sep 9, 2018 2
    • Apple / R&D EqbI36
      Spoken like a true Apple guy who’s never been anywhere else.
      Sep 10, 2018
    • Apple / Eng cho Chang
      Lol I have been elsewhere before
      Sep 10, 2018
  • Apple / Eng
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    Apple is not an ads company- and iAd is barely on life support.
    Sep 9, 2018 1
    • Apple / R&D EqbI36
      But we sure do love to point down at Google and say, “ads company! evil evil ads company!”, and then put our noses back up in the air.
      Sep 10, 2018