Office LifeMar 21, 2019
AppleKyBQ02

apple going down

i have now worked at apple for over 15 years. the place has really changed for the worse. we really used to care about quality and the customer. now the main focus is bug count, and politics. when steve was around there really didnt seem lime everything was politically motivated i cant say that anymore. how do others feel about this?

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Verizon Media sxSG85 Mar 21, 2019

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VSwf01 Mar 21, 2019

Reading comprehension... He didn't say there was no politics in the past just that everything didn't feel politics driven then as it does now.

Sony cofnrj648 Mar 21, 2019

Could it be that now that you are older and more experienced you notice the politics that have always been there more now? I’ve read stories that there was always a lot of politics between the teams at Apple.

Apple KyBQ02 OP Mar 21, 2019

you might be right, hard to tell. it just never seemed this bad

Microsoft MSFTBRO Mar 21, 2019

I also feel this way after they removed the 3.5mm jack. They are going down...

Apple DdbB Mar 21, 2019

Lol

Apple G218d245 Mar 21, 2019

I also started feeling the same but about microsoft when they lost the ability to push a decent windows update without deleting everyone’s personal data.

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shard Mar 21, 2019

I went on an interview at Apple and the political tension between folks was super clear even through their 30 minute interviews. It was such a turn off I knew that I didn't want to work there by the end of the fourth interview.

Apple G218d245 Mar 21, 2019

Not to mention the fact that you probably didn’t do well in your interview and now you are trying to justify it by pointing out something that you couldn’t have possibly experienced in a 30 minute interview.

Facebook class Mar 21, 2019

Let me guess shard, you got rejected and you're salty.

Nvidia DE2019 Mar 21, 2019

It’s been upgraded to strong buy from buy by a broking firm today . Stock is doing pretty good . WS just cares about profits sadly .

Anthem avn62 Mar 21, 2019

IS&T?

Apple Onsjsm Mar 21, 2019

More good managers needed

Apple jinn25 Mar 21, 2019

I imagine the focus on bug count and the focus on quality go hand in hand. Unless people are being told to hide bugs instead of fix them.

Apple KyBQ02 OP Mar 21, 2019

we are not hiding the bugs just moving them for latter. a product is done by a date, instead of when the incoming bug rate starts to taper off. absolute bug count in a release isnt a good measure

Apple jinn25 Mar 21, 2019

Damn. And here I thought that was only happening with IS&T dev. Timelines are bullshit. Deliver when it’s ready not when the times up

Apple WWbw50 Mar 21, 2019

I think there are multiple things going on here. 1. Apple doesn’t have a good direction. They can’t decide whether they want to be a software or a hardware company (when in reality they have always been an ecosystem company). 2. They are focusing too much on the competition and reacting to it, rather than looking at different markets and asking hard questions to come up with something new. 3. Apple was always organized like a startup under Steve, and that worked because the scale of the company was small and was under very tight control. Now they have grown very large without a clear strategy of building the culture and a uniform hiring bar. This has brought on quite a few people that are absolute parasites.

Apple KyBQ02 OP Mar 21, 2019

100% correct