completely burnt out in just 2 weeks of work

Sep 18 64 Comments

Here is my situation:

1. Joined Amazon recently (not even a month).
2. Feeling very very depressed and want to go back to my old place.
3. I am not sleeping even for 1hr in the night.
4. Amazon already spent 20K on my relocation.
5. what should I do?

How can I negotiate 20K for relocation expenses?

Moved from NJ to Seattle

Work load is not a problem.

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  • Amazon oc77uf
    discuss with your manager; they should be there to help. If that doesn’t work, apply for an internal transfer. If you really just feel that Amazon isn’t the place for you, have that conversation with your manager. Let them know what’s going on. Let them know what you need to be happy and stay. If all else fails, DM me and we can connect on a personal level.
    Sep 18 6
    • Amazon oc77uf
      Feel free to DM me. My team is hiring in NY.
      Sep 18
    • Oracle larry_off
      Do you know any team hiring in Bay Area? I fee the same.
      Sep 18
    • Amazon oc77uf
      Bay Area, Seattle and New York. Feel free to DM me
      Sep 18
    • Oracle larry_off
      Check your DM.
      Sep 18
    • Neurocrine bluffjezoz
      Are you also hiring data scientists, or for related roles?
      Sep 18
  • Amazon CulStryBro
    This sounds like anxiety from moving and changing jobs and cities, maybe from the shift from East coast to Seattle lifestyle, and possibly self-induced anxiety from reading Blind too much. Don't psych yourself out. You got this, everything will be OK.
    Sep 18 2
    • Election Systems & Software burntoutz
      OP
      Looks like u are spot on. Yes. I am putting too much pressure on myself, perhaps after seeing too many PIP threads about Amazon.
      Sep 18
    • New York Life Insurance / Data dposx22
      What is PIP
      Sep 25
  • Amazon Dr. Jones
    Switch teams now. I made the mistake of not switching, now I’m on the Dev List and can’t.
    Sep 18 7
    • Amazon Dr. Jones
      Informal PIP before formal PIP
      Sep 19
    • Microsoft Microsoft.
      @Jones how long at Amazon?
      Sep 19
    • Amazon Dr. Jones
      < 1 year
      Sep 19
    • Microsoft Microsoft.
      Wow! They don't give you even a year? Sign on bonus needed to be returned if fired before 1 year?
      Sep 19
    • Amazon Dr. Jones
      No, I get to keep the bonus.
      Sep 19
  • Election Systems & Software burntoutz
    OP
    I have no problem with my team as it is too early to judge my manager or the team. I do not know the reason but I developed anxiety and depression soon after joining.
    Sep 18 2
    • New / Eng rocketfuel
      Is it the workload?
      Sep 18
    • Amazon / Eng Chad🕶
      Considering that you specifically noted in the post that the work load is not the issue, then it seems like Amazon is not the root cause for your problems. Go see a therapist and they'll help you talk through your deeper issues. It sounds like you don't know what's causing them but talking to a professional can definitely help you at least figure out what the problem is
      Sep 18
  • Amazon ey98tdkx
    Just switch teams. There's no time requirement before you switch.
    Sep 18 15
    • Oracle larry_off
      Yes. That’s right. Cause my background is in ML. Current work is in backend. So I am trying to see if I could move to ML teams. Please suggest.
      Sep 19
    • Amazon ey98tdkx
      Well yeah you totally could. We don't have a minimum time you have to stay in a role. New managers might question why you accepted the position but if you have a halfway decent answer, no one will think twice, especially if you have prior experience in it.
      Sep 19
    • Oracle larry_off
      Do you know any good ML teams I could aim for? Also is it okay if I message HM on chime? Just to be clear, looking at the job posts won’t get me PIPed right?
      Sep 19
    • Amazon ey98tdkx
      I don't - not familiar with any ML teams. I know SageMaker is an ML platform...but idk how much actual ML work they do. I know Alexa does some, of course, but idk which teams take care of it.

      Yeah, I messaged hiring managers on chime. Just send a short message saying you think the team sounds interesting and you'd like to chat.

      As long as you don't hit the apply button on the job postings, your manager won't know you're looking at the job listings.
      Sep 19
    • Oracle larry_off
      Thanks a lot for the insights. I will look into these positions. I must say, I am liking the backend work in my current team, plus team members are nice. My background in ML is making me want to pursue those positions.

      Thanks for all the insights.
      Sep 19
  • Oracle larry_off
    Wow I am about to make this post today. Why do you feel burnt out? I joined Amazon recently and feel the same.
    Sep 18 2
    • Dstillery / Eng kioo37
      Why do you feel that way?
      Sep 18
    • Oracle larry_off
      In my case, the manager and team are nice. It is just that I have been putting too much pressure on myself to get things done, of course after watching all the posts on blind.
      Sep 18
  • Microsoft orki
    I left amazon in 4 weeks but I didn’t have relocation so I was fine - you would be better off paying the relocation (FYI I was not burnt out and my team was good)
    Sep 18 1
    • Microsoft Microsoft.
      Why did you leave in 4 weeks? Which team?
      Sep 18
  • Real Networks LSA7
    List all the changes your life has gone through by moving from east coast to west coast.
    Go over them one by one (sleeping cycle, new location, food, weather, away from your social circle etc). This might be your body taking longer to adjust all these changes. Also try to go out and exercise a bit (may be go for a run/yoga etc).

    Hopefully things will improve. Good Luck.
    Sep 18 0
  • New GUIQ05
    It’s not clear what exactly is wrong ? Why you cannot sleep ? Is it the job didn’t match the expectation or manager ?
    Sep 18 0
  • HBO dRtk46
    Definitely switch teams. Explore your options. Good luck!
    Sep 18 0
  • Amazon / Eng gglmao
    What is so bad about it? Perhaps join some social groups?
    Sep 18 0
  • Amazon OdpS15
    I’m in the same boat. On top of it my teammates and manager hates me too. I just want to go home.
    Sep 19 6
    • Amazon OdpS15
      A month.
      Sep 20
    • Microsoft Microsoft.
      This happened in just a month? No time for ramping up?
      Sep 20
    • Microsoft Microsoft.
      Are you in AWS?
      Sep 20
    • Amazon OdpS15
      Yes.
      Sep 20
    • Microsoft Microsoft.
      Too bad. Where did you work before?
      Sep 20
  • Amazon TDKU11
    I have been here 2 months and feel the same. Pressure is very high and bosses keep adding to my plate. Not enough time to learn the systems, business, etc. and being asked to deliver root causes (not an sde btw)

    Now I know why they pay more. The management is awful. I think l5 and below is fine since it’s more IC roles but l6 sucks.
    Sep 20 2
  • Amazon WwBB32
    PM me. I've been there for a month and am having the same issues, though in my case I'm an L4 who's having difficulty with a problem an L5 couldn't figure out, so they dumped it on me. Minus one senior and a manger, my whole team is only a month newer than me and I'm starting oncall before one of them because I solved more tickets already. I'm stressed and don't wanna get PIP-ed.
    Sep 18 1
    • Microsoft Microsoft.
      All these within a month? That's horrible!
      Sep 18
  • Fiverr UcBb30
    You may be just home sick. It is a huge change to relocate and be alone, without your family, friends and community.

    Get help from a therapist and at the same time try to make new friends also outside of work.
    Sep 18 0
  • Microsoft Microsoft.
    Which team?
    Sep 18 0
  • New fssio
    No moving back to your old place. Find another job
    Sep 18 0
  • Indeed
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    I think Amazon has lowered its standard to hire people but haven’t lowered its expectations.

    I worked on a high profile team but never felt like the workload was enough to consider leaving in less than a month. Besides you have almost a quarter worth of time for ramp up
    Sep 18 0
  • New / Eng rocketfuel
    Is the workload so high?
    Sep 18 0
  • Microsoft
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    How can it be so bad in the first month?
    I have worked there in the past.
    Sep 18 0