google cloud professional services worth it?
can anyone elablorate on GCP professional services? cloud infrastructure engineer and consultant are the two roles open. how much white boarding is needed?
if I remember correctly, Cloud consultant is more like a project/program manager and doesn’t really have to code/script. They manage the migration projects. The infra engineers are expected to know scripting and assigned to customers during the migration process. Source - I attended a Google professional services event in sf last year and met a few of these folks . You could also get a hold of the recruiters and ask them.
Is it worth it? Or should I grind LC and go SWE?
It’s different than swe in the sense its outward/customer facing, and it doesn’t have any career path as such . But you could always find a way to move to sales , marketing , TAM roles from prof services . Whether It’s worth or not depends on what your goals are . I met a few swe who moved to professional services and they liked it better
Hi I'm in professional services. Most of the people in the group were tech managers or experienced tech managers in their previous lives. I'd say my day breaks down as follows 10% project MGMT, 50% architecture work, 30% lab / testing solutions, 10% basic troubleshooting /opening bug tickets. We usually are split among 2-3 clients and do have a writing component to our job.
Ah so you pretty much need to have been a tech manager? Are there any junior roles?
Hi @dcb4 can I DM you? Have questions about my upcoming interview
Interviews are a mix of pm, tech implementation, architecture and client mgmt. We are really good a separating the people that have done the work in real life from the ones that have taken certs only. Our interviews are no where near as technical as developers but we are a lot more technical than normal cloud roles
So compared to, for example, customer engineer interview, it will be much more technical? Technical as in grinding on LeetCode? Or system design? I am coming from a background of aerospace engineering. I just got my GCP Professional Cloud Architect cert, and I switched into a SWE role at my current work. But I feel lacking in professional experience with GCP and wonder what’s the best way to get into GCP
We have some junior people but to be honest....if say those guys could join a Deloitte or Accenture and be either a new mgr or more likely a senior consultant. Our junior people have serious tech skills, they just don't have as much experience with clients
Ahh I see I see. Interesting. I probably wouldn’t pass then based on this description
The tech mgr title was more of a description of skills and experience. I think most junior people have about 5-6 years of experience.
Oh dang!
So there are three internal roles (to keep things really simple). The least technical is the TAM role. The role you are talking about is Consultant and then we have strategic cloud engineers. The cloud engineers are basically like CCIEs. The consultants are good. If say most consultants and CEs are interchangeable. Usually they have the same background.
Ahhh got it. This is a great breakdown. How does one go about preparing or gaining the skills of these roles (like a cloud engineer or consultant), if all they have are certifications?
The leet code stuff is for developers /swe. The CEs are professional services are more client and solution focused.
Dang so there’s really no other way then putting in a few years else where? Shoot might as well grind LeetCode, get in as a SWE and then move internally
If you need to build your cloud skills I'd say try slalom, Accenture or Deloitte. They have great training programs. A few years there and you should be able to make the jump to gcp
Yeah I’ve seen these before, almost went with Deloitte and anther reputable cloud reseller. But I got cold feel because I’d rather join the mothership. I feel like getting a couple years experience else where is a waste when I can just study to become a SWE, work at G, then slide internal. Albeit maybe more stressful, but at least I don’t have to work for Deloitte or Accenture lol
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No idea.
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