help me choose

Stryker / Eng JBWD10
Aug 29, 2018 17 Comments

I have 14+ YOE non-CS (hardware) in SF bay area. All companies with offers below are not currently profitable.

Startup #1 220k+10% cash bonus + ~70k/year ISO's for 4 years in a large well funded late stage startup = 310TC (242 + equity)
Startup #2 100k+no bonus+no 401k+ 1.5% equity in a very small startup that just started few months ago = 100 TC + equity(no idea how to value)
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Google Bet #3 Haven't gotten offer yet but already discussed current offer with recruiter and he said he can't match the base of #1. TC will be close to 250k max at current level(including bonus + equity). If interview feedback is good they might upgrade level and could go to 300k max but said that its unlikely.

I already negotiated with #2 to let me work part time for them(@80% of FTE salary) along with #1 full time job. So I am pretty excited about total comp and work if #3 doesn't pan out.

But I am wondering how much weight to put behind google (potential) offer if its less than #1. Biggest difference is that Google bet equity is liquid(convertible to google stock every year) while startup equity is illiquid. I am valuing startup equity as (#of shares that vest per year x (last funding round stock price - exercise price)). Also have read here that google bonuses and refreshers could add up quickly over few years. Not sure if that is still the case for a Google Bet. Google Bet also comes with a known brand name and comes with the usual google perks.What do you guys think ? At what TC is Google bet better than #1 ?

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TOP 17 Comments
  • Panasonic Avionics Tac0s
    I have a headache.
    Aug 29, 2018 1
  • Amazon / Eng IOExceptio
    You really wanna work two jobs at the same time? Just go to Google so you can go anywhere you want afterwards
    Aug 29, 2018 1
    • Stryker / Eng JBWD10
      OP
      I really don't but #1 offers good pay and #2 offers exposure to work that I really want to get into long term.
      Google bet can offer both and hence it would be great. But

      if #3 TC < #1 TC:
      print('should I still take #3 ?')
      elif #3 TC > #1 TC:
      print('I should definitely take #1')
      Aug 29, 2018
  • Stryker / Eng JBWD10
    OP
    But it's not Google proper. It's a Google bet like waymo
    Aug 29, 2018 3
    • Uber djduh
      Even better
      Aug 30, 2018
    • Stryker / Eng JBWD10
      OP
      why do you think google bet is better than google ? Isn't it inherently more risky since its not a software company ? isn't the culture different from google ?
      Aug 30, 2018
    • Uber djduh
      Waymo >> Google
      Aug 31, 2018
  • Uber djduh
    250k hw TC. Is that T4?
    Aug 30, 2018 2
    • Stryker / Eng JBWD10
      OP
      They didn't disclose the level
      Aug 30, 2018
    • Stryker / Eng JBWD10
      OP
      Is there any source of TC for levels in hw at google or google bets ?
      Aug 30, 2018
  • Amazon ceg57
    Aqo1
    Jun 14 0
  • Stryker / Eng JBWD10
    OP
    Anyways, I'm just going to try negotiating it and see what happens
    Aug 29, 2018 0
  • Stryker / Eng JBWD10
    OP
    Google TC is equivalent to startup cash offer so it's like I'm getting startup equity for free
    Aug 29, 2018 0
  • Google / Eng whatsgood
    Google. Easy. With google on resume you write your own ticket and can downshift to a startup at any time.
    Aug 29, 2018 0
  • Apple / Other abcxyz007
    Name the companies, without that looks like its no brainier to go to Google
    Aug 29, 2018 0
  • Stryker / Eng JBWD10
    OP
    Me too :)
    Aug 29, 2018 0